Mayweather with out a doubt is a ATG

He has a hell of a list of accomplishments and he is still going don't forget that.17 years in and still going said it time and time again,when facing a champ is considered an easy win that's called GREATNESS.....

 

It called easy when your handpicking guys that are not in your league ! The guys listed before are much greater because they dared to be great against other greats . Thats not the case with Floyd !

 

He's no doubt a great. Not a Top 10 great.....no chance. He might make the Top 20 but in years to come when the hype of the moment cools down I don't think he'll be Top 20.

He has no defining fight. All the Top 10 's have beaten another ATG, Floyd hasn't.

 

If it's so easy to handpick guys why don't we have more fighters like him?Or better question who do you think can challenge him?

 

How do you hand pick the #1 fighter in a division?

You don't think it is even slightly impressive that you could make the case that Floyd is "the man" at both 154 and 147 after his win against Canelo? I do... Why don't you check the list of champions that have been able to effectively claim "#1 status" in two divisions at the same time in the entire history of boxing. It's a short list....

The arguments against this man in regard to his career as a boxer have become simply ridiculous.

 

Floyd has ATG skills but ATG . His best win is what...Corrales .

 

Said it before Money could beat Godzilla and people would say he waited till he got old to Fight him,let the haters hate fact is he is the best now and has been for a long time.

 

ATG for sure. If he beats a MW he could make claim for being the best ever.

 

ATG, but he's just not catching some of the old school monsters because the activity level isn't there.

 

I highly doubt anyone cares about the business side ..They should all be so lucky to even maintain that type of money ,Congrats to Floyd but what he does in the ring is what concerns me ,his all time great accomplishments in the ring does not surpass the guys mentioned bottom line .

 

He is not considered to be fighting the best because even though for example, Canelo was a champion at 154 lbs, anyone who watched his fights against Trout and Gomez could see that he wasn't developed enough to be near ready for Floyd, nor did he have a good resume before in terms of high level fighters. Throw in the catchweight stuff(which Floyd said he didn't do when it was Cotto) and the win is lessened. It's still a decent win, but basically in terms of level in the ring, Floyd is a A+ fighter that is content to beat a lot of B level competition if you look at his opposition in general.

In terms of the obvious fighters he should have fought, Pacquiao prior to 2011, Martinez prior to the Chavez Jr fight, and Cotto prior to the Margarito fight. And there's plenty of matchups where I think Floyd would win, but style-wise presented different challenges, such as Paul Williams and Margarito(who obviously called him out repeatedly). I don't have to think that Ali would have beaten Earnie Shavers, George Foreman, etc, because Ali faced all those challenges. Floyd doesn't do that. He takes on a small number of fighters that present the right risk reward ratio for his bank account and health, not his legacy. You can argue that some of the fighters in question avoided Floyd rather than the other way around(even though I think that argument is pretty weak given Floyd's history), but even now, he could try to truly push himself by doing something like moving up to 160 lbs and taking on Golovkin(who is good but no Hagler). He's proven himself to be "the man" at 154, so why not take it that step further? But that's not what Floyd's about.

And the bottom line is SRL has Duran, Hearns, Hagler, and Benitez on his resume. Ali has Liston, Frazier, and Foreman on his. Floyd, regardless of reason, has nobody on the level of any of those fighters on his ledger. That can't be ignored when ranking Floyd among the greats. So as things stand, he's a solid top 35 ATG for me, which is excellent. But if he pushed himself more, he might have been a lot higher.

 

Floyd is an ATg, but he is not even in the top 20 yet. Even his level of competition pales in comparison to his fellow ATG contemporary Pac.