So Canelo was exposed? He was too green?

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  1. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    This is the best you got? Who are you trying to impress? You think this kind of gibberish is going to win you an argument on Eastside Boxing? You obviously are completely clueless when it comes to boxing.

    You sound like a Dan Rafael Fanboy. It's nothing to brag about. The guy is a nothing more than a tool who can't think for himself. Get a freakin hobby. The levels that *****s will stoop to preserve their golden goose Floyd Money CATCHweather knows no bounds. CJ Ross is being attacked by an angry mob who think in black and white and give every round to Mayweather because they don't have the attention span or the concentration to look at who is actually landing the better punches. Anyone who scored this bout 12-0 needs to have their head examined. These people are living in a dream world.
     
  2. juice20

    juice20 Active Member Full Member

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    He's had over 40 fights so he isn't exactly green. But, he also hasn't reached his physical prime yet. Would it make a difference against floyd? No. Against the rest of the weight class....sure.
     
  3. thesmokingm

    thesmokingm Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Wut this wacko is defending CJ Ross?

    Canelo got schooled. He's 23 going against the best in the class. This is like young Kobe going against double 3 peat Jordan. Kobe like Canelo is a decade too early to give Jordan/Mayweather fits. To even make him sweat. It was not a good fight as far as being competitive. How'd he get 6 rounds... unfathomable.
     
  4. KO KIDD

    KO KIDD Loyal Member Full Member

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    I don't think that he was too green but I guess he just wasn't ready, probably could have used one or two more big fights

    Still though he probably wouldn't be ready for Floyd anyway

    Hard to say if it was that Canelo did that bad or if Floyd without a lay off and extremely motivated didn't just fight above his usual

    either way Canelo lost but he didn't get battered, he probably took less punishment than Cotto, Guerrero, Hatton, and maybe Marquez

    Canelo I thought looked good in the first 5 rounds, had round 1 even and gave him one round in that span. I liked that he slowed it down and made Floyd lead a little and early on didn't fall for feints and even feinted and countered Floyd with his left and even had some nice snappy jabs

    The problem was the second half where it was obvious to everyone in the building that he was way way behind in desperate need of a stoppage and he never once turned it up it got to the point where he needed a KO or to build toward one in a matter of a few rounds and the car never got out of first

    was he content to lose without taking a beating

    was he just that confused

    was he nervous, I think he might have been

    I think the way he coasted vs Trout with those too wide cards late hurt his progression. If he had to finish the Trout fight like a normal fight not a I know the outcome fight if I stay up he might have learned how to close a big fight

    he was never in the position of being behind or dominated

    Im not gonna call Canelo green but in that situation he was very green, whats Canelo 0-1 in major PPV main events, whats Floyd 10-0 at least theres a lot that goes into these fights like pre fight, and promotion, and training, and the press, the big weigh ins and the big intros and ring walks and big expectations

    I don't think Canelo was ready for everything that comes with the superfight let alone Floyd Mayweather was across from him
     
  5. Da Boxer

    Da Boxer Cotto Soldier Full Member

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    Canelo landed ONE (1) hook that landed CLEAN Floyd's "head" (as a general term). ONE!!!!!

    He was exposed to his fans...specially the ones who "hyped" him to kindomcome. Not to the ones with some knoledge of boxing who know that he was being hyped, and have a good idea of his (Canelo) potential is....which is NOT near anywhere his fans make him to be.
     
  6. Da Boxer

    Da Boxer Cotto Soldier Full Member

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    Let me ask you since you KNOW so much about boxing. Which rounds did you score in favor of Canelo?

    I can tell you that I have been following boxing for over 35 years, I have 53 amateour fights and I can NOT and I repeat I CAN NOT honestly give Canelo a single round that he CLEARLY and CONVINCELY (sorry about the speeling) won! NOT a sigle one!!

    Now, I want to know which rounds you gave him!
     
  7. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Canelo the real deal man. And I'm not saying that has a Canelo fan. I wasn't "hyping" him at all. Floyd had his hands full with Canelo all night. It was Floyd's toughest fight in years. When was the last time you've seen Floyd use that much lateral motion?
     
  8. prelude

    prelude Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    He's was drained and not hydrated, he wasn't fighting at his best weight. He's still undefeated so I don't know what you're talking about.
     
  9. Da Boxer

    Da Boxer Cotto Soldier Full Member

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    Really? :huh

    Are you sure? :blood

    I refuse to belive that :bart ....I dont even think that YOU belive that. :deal
     
  10. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Most of the rounds were very even. Canelo didn't win rounds convincingly. Most of the rounds were very even after 2 minutes. There was only one round (I think it was round 7) that Floyd really won convincingly. Pretty much all the other rounds were toss-up rounds. Like 11 even, Floyd 1, and Canelo 0. That was the kind of fight it was. But judging doesn't usually give 10-10 rounds, that's why we have such controversy. Judges are forced to split hairs in close rounds like that. It's no surprise that people gave the close rounds to the P4P #1.

    I thought Floyd slighted edged Canelo. Floyd was more relaxed in there, had better body language, and closed out the rounds better than Canelo. Essentially, Canelo wasn't convincing enough to win the decision. He didn't close out rounds strong enough to actually win the decision. That had a lot to do with his condition going into the fight, how he was weight drained and not at his best due to the Catchweight. At his best, it would obviously be a different fight and he could land more and win those close rounds. He's only going to get better.
     
  11. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    :good:deal
     
  12. BornReady

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    he was weight drain wat u expect
     
  13. PR BOXING

    PR BOXING Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Bad styles match up more than anything but now people see he is no next Chavez Sr and no way he is better than Oscar
     
  14. john garfield

    john garfield Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Canelo wasn't exposed or too green. He still hit like a truck, had razor-sharp reflexes...but train 24/7, he'll still always look like a sparring partner with Floyd.

    These words have always rung in my ears. (And that was in early '50s) The University of Miami Football coach (Walt Gustafson) told me when I trailed the field in the 60-meter dash..."Too little 'n too late, son"
     
  15. Barrera

    Barrera Defeated Boxing_master Full Member

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    I think the only rounds you can consider giving him are the 12th because floyd took it off and the 8th (but i feel in a low activity round no big shots landed i use defense and ring generalship to score it and i gave it to floyd)

    2 rounds and thats all u can dig up to be honest