Questions About Floyd Mayweather to Leonard/Hearns/Duran Comparison

no accusations... he just gained.. A LOT of weight.... starting off at like 130 and going all the way up and being successful at 168 is rare.

 

What was amazing about Duran was just how tough he was. I was watching a movie called A Bronx Tale not too long ago and these bikers wander into the area and go to a bar. They start trouble, and the main character says I want you to leave. They mouth off at him and continue drinking their beers and he goes and locks the door and says, now you can't leave.

This is Duran.

If it were up to him he'd fight in a ring the quarter of the size of what's used and he'd be more than happy to fight until only one guy is standing.

That in a nutshell is the difference between Duran and Mayweather.

And when he fought Barkley he was hit and hit hard, many times, he just absorbed the punishment, used great defense to make many punches miss and came back stronger and harder until Barkey (who is 6'1") finally succumb to a 5 punch combo. It didn't end the fight, but it did result in a Duran victory. And Barkley did beat Hearns twice, so he was no push over.

 

I remember him trying for both.

Shane ducked FLoyd for a long time.

and Oscar was Arums cash cow.

 

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did shane ever fight at 130? thought he fought at 135

 

Floyd still in prime age 36,sir that's was a ****** analysis.floyd is past his prime

according to most people here you are in your prime until you lose :nut

floyd got the world's longest prime 2000-2013 and still going strong.

floyd is also the king of cherrypicking according to boxing forum.

floyd is only champion in the history of boxing who has been champion 15 years and everytime he defends it against hes mandatory it's a can.

floyd is also world's luckiest man to archieve such thinks

according to boxing forum floyd is king everything else than boxing.

in boxing he is just the luckiest person on the world who was never great.

 

Floyd is somewhat under appreciated, I'll give you that, but let's see Floyd going 72-1 then defeat a prime undefeated ATG like SRL

 

nowadays fighters fight less.floyd is undefeated 45-0.there is no ATG' like SRL who floyd could fight. we never see that,and for the record it's impossible to say right now.canelo where he will go from here on.could be future ATG,you don't know yet?

i bet SRL was not top 10ATG at the moment duran beat him.not even a ATG at the moment.

wait 10years after floyd is RETIRED and then we can start to talk where floyd should rank all time.there is garcia,canelo etc..who could be ATG's laterxon their careers..think about it.canelo goes to dominate boxing next 10years.where you would rank floyd after that?beating prime young canelo as a smaller man at old age.

 

Yeah funny how he "lucked out" I mean great fighters lose to good fighters at times,but not Floyd?? They say that guy was not in his prime,but they don't realize they are saying Floyd is and has been in his prime for 17 years???

Floyd critics,when was Floyd not in his prime??? Cause every champion he faced was not,gotta love the Floyd critics "***** logic"

 

Floyd could be 60yrs old and fight for the HW title,lose close decicion and floyd haters would be jumpingin the air screaming floyd was exposed never any good.finally when natural LW stepped to HW he got exposed and floud would probaly fight 30yrs old HW champion who was past his prime.and ofcourse floyd was still in his prime.floyd's prime never ends.if he retires at age 38 i bet haters find coupld names who floyd ducked.hell i think people demand ten years later when floyd is retired to step up and stop hiding behind his wheelchair.

 

I've said it before and I'll say it again, Floyd is the only fighter in history to do what he's done without serious KO power. Duran's power is what really allowed him to compete at such higher levels while being grossly overweight. If Floyd had any semblance of real KO power, the GOAT discussion would be moot and we'd be talking about Floyd like he was the Wayne Gretzky of boxing.

 

The fact that ATG fighters, good fighters, trainers etc are talking about Floyd being in the top 5 tells me all I need to know. No matter what Floyd has done, it isn't very hard to see that this guy would be an ATG in any era.

 

I disagree. Duran has a very under rated defense that allowed him to roll with punches, remain in the pocket and immediately fire back. That and a great chin was what allowed him to complete at such higher levels.

Personally I don't think Floyd could take the punishment Duran took in many of his fights, and I don't think Floyd particularly likes getting hit, Duran loved to get hit if it meant he got to get his punches in as well.

 

It depends on what you mean.

If you want to talk pure boxing skills, yes Floyd is right up there with the ATG's.

If you want to talk about his level of competition, it's rather mediocre compared to many other greats and that does impact his legacy. If you're an A+ fighter and you continually beat B - B+ fighters, you're not showing us much. This is why a fighter like Mike Spinks went to heavyweight, so he could display his skills in an environment where he was at a disadvantage and still win. Result, he beat Holmes twice.

That's also what Duran did. He went up to middle weight, fought Hagler, lost but the point wasn't whether he lost or won, the point was he pushed himself the very edge of his abilities. Later of course he beat Barkley.

And if you want to talk about him, not as boxer, but as fighter, he's not in the same league as the Hagler's, Duran's, Tyson's, Dempsey's and many, many other tough guys who were either going to knock you out or go down on their shield trying. They were both fighters and boxers.

 

The fact that they do compare Floyd to these these four, just further let us know how great Floyd really has to be. Even for those who disagree have to agree that, his name wouldn't constantly be in comparison with greats if he wasn't one himself.

 

man yall still talking about this ****. mayweather could hold in own in any era. floyd vs surgar, ok sugar barely beat big floyd with compound fracture in his right hand. i mean hairline fracture. i think lil floyd is a better fighter then big floyd. i think hearns would have been the hardest fight for floyd. srl and duran i can think he would got them. mayweather is to crafty srl and duran.