Calzaghe: The best British boxer of his era?

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  1. Fat Joe

    Fat Joe Let's have it right Full Member

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    If he goes back on his retirement plans and beats 4 maybe 5 top fighters he can change this.
     
  2. KCD

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    Calzaghe is for me.

    I know people will moan but i dont really look at Lennox Lewis as being British, i know he was born here but he is about as unBritish as you can get. The only fight he had over here once champ for his fans was against Botha and he only started his career over here because no US promoter wanted him.
     
  3. brown bomber

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    For the Zagster to surpass Lewis he would have to shut out Hopkins. KO Pavlik then beat a then more accomplished Chad Dawson. Then maybe he's got an argument.
     
  4. brown bomber

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    For the Zagster to surpass Lewis he would have to shut out Hopkins. KO Pavlik then beat a then more accomplished Chad Dawson. Then maybe he's got an argument.
     
  5. dan-b

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    Lewis' nationality is not open for debate here. He campaigned as a Brit & was born here.:good
     
  6. Naidah

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    Well if we are going that route then Lewis deserves it, but honestly every time i see him i dont see him as a British fighter, God knows why i just cant:huh
     
  8. draw99

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    Lennox at the top without question.

    I think its hard call between Calzaghe and Hamed, although I'd probably edge Calzaghe due to the way Naz failed to deal with his defeat to Barrera.

    I dont think beating b-hop will advance Calzaghes cause that much, as b-hop is well past his prime, and would be basically just a big "name" on his record rather than a genuinely impressive victory. Joe really needs Pavlik on his record to secure a truly great legacy i.e. a top American fighter, in his prime, in America - something that he hasnt done yet.

    I'm reluctant to put even put Hatton in forth. Well overated, and ducking a domestic rival. If he fights PBF again, it shouldnt be called a boxing match, it should be called a CELEBRITY boxing match, as thats all it would be.

    I wont mention who I think should be forth, for fear of totally humiliating myself! :yep
     
  9. dan-b

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    Great article.:good

    I think it's to do with the fact that he has spent a lot of time in America whether it be fighting, promotion or commentating. I can understand why you feel that way but he's definitely a Brit.:D
     
  10. Cuts man

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    He isnt British in my opinion moved back to the UK because it benefited his career.Move back to blighty and clean up the sub standard European division to have a crack at the world titles. All you need to do is listen to his accent he is hardly apples and pears is he?
    The thing is the British are so desperate to claim any decent boxer especially a Heavy weight as one of our own when the whole British establishment done nothing to turn him into a world class boxer
     
  11. LeadLeftHook

    LeadLeftHook Boxing Addict Full Member

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    If he beats B.Hop. then yes even though Hopkins is 43. I consider Lennox a product of Canadian boxing.
     
  12. Mikey

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    I really do think its close between Lewis and Khan of this era to be honest. Can't seperate. :huh
     
  13. Naidah

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    Cuts man and Lead left hook, does that mean you consider Maria Sharapova American because she learnt her tennis in the US?

    Just because a person learns his trade/skill in another country does not mean he loses his nationality of the country where he was born. Besides, Lewis actually started his pro career in London, and his coaches were usually American. He developed most under American Manny Steward, so do you therefore consider him a product of the American system?

    I certainly knew which country I belonged to after 12 years, and I'm sure Lennox did as well. The article I posted earlier shows how in touch Lewis is with the issues going on in this country, that sure as hell did not look like the comments of a Canadian.

    Lewis was born and raised the UK, he is British, it's as simple as that. Furthermore with all due respect, it's for him to decide his nationality and what country he wants to represent.
     
  14. Cuts man

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    Well I have a limited knowledge of women's tennis but as far as I know Maria Sharapova hasnt represented the USA in the Olympics.
    Lennox used the whole dual nationality card to its full potential and fair play it worked a treat.
    But when I remember the "domestic" bouts he had with Mason (when he finished big Gary's career) and Bruno the feeling was pretty much that he was a Canadian and the others were true Brits.Funny how time and him being a top class boxer changes peoples view.
    Any time I wanted Lennox to win was on its own merits the whole patriotism thing never came into it.