Klitschko 240 lbs Povetkin 224

Might not be any excuse but he's coming in the way he always has, using the training regimen he is familiar with and his body is accustomed to. It would be a stupid move to change his training methods and intensity completely for the biggest fight of his career.

 

Wlad is going beat Povetkin up very badly. This will be stoppage victory. If Povetkin tries to land out there and is brave it will be a better fight.

 

So if body types don't exist how do you explain members of the same family, with the same diet, the same activity levels who have very different body shapes? This happens all the time and is especially evident in kids who obviously wouldn't have varying lifestyles where food consumption and working out is concerned yet one can be slight of frame and the other naturally more bulky and muscular. Obviously some people have to work a lot harder to attain a toned, muscular physique and this is mostly down to genes.

 

There are differences to metabolism obviously, but getting toned/ripped etc is still just calories in vs calories out.... you find your maintenance and go below it or above it depending on what you want.

Povetkin is carrying quite a lot of flab that is slowing him down.... obviously changing something radically before the biggest fight of his life would be stupid... and actually dieting down during a camp would sap his strength.

That said what both Klitschkos do which is actually the smart thing is they lean out so they do not have to eat in a deficit during camp so they can increase in strength.
Obviously the drugs help as well but all fighters do those so thats just a level playing field.

*edit ment to quote Loughlan oh well.

 

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Yeah I would agree with that, I'm just disputing that there are no such thing as body types. Povetkin could have a washboard stomach if his bodyfat was low enough for toned abs to be visible but as you point out, this wouldn't be a priority in his training where strength is key.

Klitschko is blessed with good genes but more importantly he trains and eats smart to maintain his physique.

 

No question being in the tremendous physical shape Wladimir is, is a great advantage to any boxer. Someone earlier mentioned Wlads work ethic, and I have to agree conditioning like that doesn't come easy. Possibly just too much effort for Povetkin to reach anywhere near that level so he doesn't even try.

 

I agree completely... the notion of bodytypes is so outdated and laugheble its kinda funny.
There are differences to individual metabolisms but the notion of someone not being able to get ripped due to a "bodytype" is just ******ed.

 

The other thing to remember is that Wlad's been putting himself through that kind of effort for literally decades now. Povetkin looks better now than he has in years, but there's no possible way one great training camp is going to catch him up to Wlad, who's done it for 60+ pro fights and takes care of himself in the downtime. Without obvious (and dangerous levels of) chemical abuse, that kind of night and day difference can't happen within that short a time span.

 

This is 100% true. Environmental changes also count for a lot- stress levels, sleep levels, emotional state, when one eats, and what's being eaten. Cut out too many calories too fast, and your body will respond by putting itself in a "starvation safeguard" state where whatever you do it will be converted almost immediately into fat, your "work ethic" be damned.

I still can't believe people can type that it only boils down to calories in and calories out with a straight face. It's a massive oversimplification of it, because not all calories are created equal and there's a myriad of other factors that come in to play.

The other dangerous assumption is that having some extra fat would hinder a fighter in a boxing match, when I'm not so sure it would. If a fighter naturally carries a little more fat, it doesn't make sense to do everything possible just to drain one down to look ripped unless it serves a functional purpose. Not draining oneself means the fighter will be stronger and maintains a healthier level of cerebralspinal fluid, which gets lost during the dehydration process and acts not only as a cushion to the brain, but the medium through which the brain gets its energy for on-the-fly decision making. It's also the slowest to replenish during the rehydrating process.

That's not to say Povetkin could never get more ripped than he is, but it's a longer process than one training camps, and even then, he may never end up with the aesthetics of Wlad because he's not built that way, not to mention Wlad having a massive head start.

 

Good post.

 

WTF
sets of 315 is NOTHING like max of 315

 

Exactly.

I laugh when someone says something like Arreola is *not the kinda bodytype who can look like Frank Bruno* or other such nonsense.

ANYone can become lean and defined with proper conditioning and diet.

ANYone.............Some may look better than others due to bodytype, but Povetkin is pudgey due to his eating or training (or lack of), NOT due to any bodytype hindering him........

I imagine he likes Dairy Queen Peanut Buster Parfaits, from the look of him.

But he is undefeated and you can't question his performance and record........his extra body fat has not ruined his winning streak........not yet anyway. As has been said, its not a bodybuilding contest...........Some pudgey guys make up for it in other areas and don't seem to be hindered by extra body fat...........

But I venture to say if Povetkin lost that extra pudge, he's have better stamina later in the fights....

 

Yeah Wlads gonna out point Povetkin in another one sided snoozfest. 224 and fat is not good. If he was fit he'd be a cruiser weight.

 

Nah, not that simple. Juan Diaz was not even close to being overweight, yet never looked close to being ripped. Maybe his macros were off, but calorific intake? Probably not.

 

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guys like joe calzaghe and Anderson silva also never look 'ripped', but they are always in prime shape come fight night