Actually, they think he beats every heavyweight in history (or at least 99% of them) and that's where the problems start. If it was just left as being a "hard fight" or a "difficult opponent" I don't think anyone would have an issue with it. They never leave it as just that though.
Vitali's legacy? LOL. Vitali's "legacy" is built off of a TKO9 LOSS and a TKO6 LOSS. If you want to talk about legacy; Dempsy rematched Tunney Louis rematched Schelling and Maxim Patterson rematched Johansson and Liston Liston rematched Clay Ali rematched Frazier, Norton and Spinks Holmes rematched Spinks Holyfield rematched Bowe Lewis rematched Holyfield and Rahman One question for the Klittards; Why didn't Vitali rematch Chris Byrd?
well the reason he didn't rematch tbh is that the KJlits are big cowards really, relatively speaking. Vitali had balls once, but they disappeared long ago.
Good luck getting a reasonable answer to this. They'll claim Vits was injured, yet he fought a month after Byrd and lil bro. They'll claim Don King wanted options, yet the Klits always seem to want options themselves. They'll say there was no reason, Vits was killing him on the score cards, yet they with ignore the fact most the rounds were relatively close and Vits only landed 8 more punches the entire fight. They'll say there was no demand, yet the Klits "sell out stadiums" in Germany and the German fans were going nuts when Byrd made Vittles quit. They'll say whats the point, Wlad beat him twice. We'll say It doesn't matter they were both top 10 rated the next several years. Than there will either be name calling or your questions will be ignored. Like I said my man...good luck!
I don't know Bat, not in the top 20. Where do you rank him? How about you post your top 20 heavyweight ATG's? You like to ask for a lot, but you don't like to give anything up. Why is that?
Show your top 20. While your at it why don't you explain why Vittles couldn't have juiced as a pro but you think Hopkins probably has been most of his career. :hi:
So you wont tell us where you rank him. You have doge everything possible to discredit the posters feeling that Vitali is an ATG while you yourself refuse to tell us how you (even as an oft banned mod of a history section) rank him. That's a cowardly move. You are so scared.
Wow Bat, what are you 12? Lets remember who put up a list and who won't. Lets remember who's willing to back up why he thinks Vits could have juiced and who won't back up their claim that "Hopkins has probably been on PED's most of his career. Mull that over a bit and than come back at me with the junior high school peer pressure. I think it may really work next time...you almost had me! :rofl
What's the problem? Why wont you tell us where you rank him? You keep on doing what you can to discredit everyone who thinks he is an ATG while you wont reveal your own ranking. Why is that? If it is not because you are scared then why is that?
Whats the problem? Why won't you post your top 20 ATG heavyweights? Why won't you explain why you think Hopkins had juiced most of his career but not Vittles? Why is that? If it's not because you're scared than why is that?
HoF? Barely but I'm okay with that. Anything past that? Naw, sorry. Compelling losing efforts don't elevate you to ATG status.
Funny that you, as a scholar (and mod for a boxing history section banned for calling other posters rascists) refuse to post where you rank Vitali. You must be really scared of the public scrutiny. I can see the colour yellow. Edit: The reason for jabs recent ban has been corrected.
Bbbbbut he's the most dominant heavyweight in history and his opponents would be ATG if it weren't for him and his brother! :roll: