Calzaghe's resume is very underated

Discussion in 'British Boxing Forum' started by True_Hero, Oct 19, 2013.


  1. True_Hero

    True_Hero Guest

    Some people, mainly 'Muricans' seem to insist he did nothing but knock over tomato can after tomato can until facing Hopkins. Yet, he has a pretty good resume of boxers he's defeated. Sure there are some bums there (like Tocker Podwill) but there are also many former champs, prospects and guys who, if in their prime today would be in the top 10 of the super-middleweight division.

    Eubank

    Robin Reid (Former world champ and underated boxer, if around today he would definitely be around the top 10)

    Richie Woodhall (Former world champ and again, would be in the area of top 10 if around today)

    Mario Veit (Undefeated the first time Joe destroyed him. Was an excellent boxer who would be considered a top 5 supermiddleweight today)

    Omar Sheika (Admittedly not the best but, beat Glenn Johnson before facing Calzaghe before Johnson was completely shot to bits)

    Byron Mitchell (Former world champ)

    Kabary Salem (Not the best boxer, but a tough opponent on account of how dirty he is. Would be a respected win today for anyone)

    Mario Veit again (Once more destroyed)

    Jeff Lacy (Top American prospect who Calazghe humbled to the point where he was never the same again. Lacy wasn't a bum either, he had a good run and beat some credible opposition before facing Joe)

    Sakio Bika (Current world champ and always considered a tough opponent. A step or two behind the elite level, but still a tough opponent)

    Kessler (Still one of the best in the world. Joe faced him in his prime)

    Hopkins (The #1 light-heavyweight today)


    That's 12 excellent wins for Calzaghe. Yet Americans say he did nothing but beat bums? Those names would look good on anyones resume.
     
  2. Robert

    Robert Boxing Addict Full Member

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    you missed charles Brewer(ibf champ beatern by Ottke by SD*2)
     
  3. outthebox

    outthebox Member Full Member

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    Totally agree.

    The common comparison is with Froch who has a good cv but no win of Froch comes anywhere close to the Hopkins victory and I would argue not the Eubank or prime Kessler wins either. I think it's a shame that Calzaghe's is overlooked on the basis of a lack of depth.
     
  4. evomax

    evomax New Member Full Member

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    Calzaghe is britains greatest fighter in the modern era no doubt. Resume's? Dont care. Calzaghe would do to froch as he done to lacy..easy money.
     
  5. zulander

    zulander Boxing Addict Full Member

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    yep i agree people love to try and plain down a fighters achievements.
    Calzaghe did have a stretch around the ishera pudwill fights where he was fighting guys way out of there depth but he was quality.
    The wins you list are all top class - yeah this guy might have this might have lost there etc but Lacy, young up and comer predicted to beat joe by many, Kessler legist world class unbeaten fighter and hopkins.....Then guys like reid - i always think if reid and woodhall etc were American Joe would get more credit from some
     
  6. evomax

    evomax New Member Full Member

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    :thumbsup
     
  7. Bulldog24

    Bulldog24 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Let's not forget Brewer beat the **** out of Echols (robbed) who then beat the **** out of Hopkins. Roy Jones wanted nothing of Brewer in the 90s and he was robbed against Ottke. Calzaghe/Brewer was an all-out war!
     
  8. Mook

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    Lacy and the manner of the win. Kessler and the way he adapted. Hopkins, who most certainly was not shot as he keeps proving. Winning all the belts in the division at one stage or another.
    No need to point to anything else, that's an exceptional record by any measure.
     
  9. matt007

    matt007 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Very good post OP. I wouldn't worry about some people knocking his record.

    Those who appreciate boxing knows he is an elite talent.
     
  10. stittyb

    stittyb Well-Known Member Full Member

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    He was unlucky in a way in that he met Reid, Woodhall, Brewer and Mitchell a fight or two after they lost their world titles. Mitchell in particular lost his in a very dubious manner. If he fought them all six months to a year prior he'd have beaten four current world champions who were on a run of defenses. Really in those fights he had everything to lose and very little to gain.
     
  11. ButeTheBeast

    ButeTheBeast Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Froch lost to a past his prime Kessler.
    Calzaghe beat a prime unbeaten Kessler

    is their any debate between Froch and Calzaghe?
     
  12. Larsso

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    Joe arguably lost to robin Reid
     
  13. Larsso

    Larsso Member Full Member

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    Kessler arguably before his prime, would young still
     
  14. Arabdeen

    Arabdeen New Member Full Member

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    Yawn. Calzaghe. Yawn. Froch. Yawn. RESUME. Repetitive, boring, pointless argument.
     
  15. Badgeronimous

    Badgeronimous Will you stand? Full Member

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    During Calzaghe's established years, 2000-2008, the only fighters of note at SMW he never faced were IMO Mundine, Ottke, Bute and Beyer. I think most boxing fans would agree that he would beat all 4.

    There were few fights out there for Calzaghe for much of his career, people forget that Calzaghe wasn't much of a name until after the Lacy fight (when he was 34yrs old). A long time world champion, that hardly anyone has heard of is simply bad promotion.

    The good era's of the 90's and 10's sandwich his reign. However as the OP points out, so many of Calzaghe's wins are underated!