ORTIZ IS A QUITTER BUT ALVARADO ISNT? hypocrites

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  1. kirk

    kirk l l l Staff Member

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    Ortiz never dug deep for a win? Ya because the berto fight was a walk in the park.
     
    kirk, Oct 21, 2013
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  2. Mr Pibb

    Mr Pibb Boxing Junkie Full Member

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  3. KO KIDD

    KO KIDD Loyal Member Full Member

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    As a fan Ive tried to be better about it

    Didnt realize at first how bad Ortiz's jaw was, some guys would have fought on but no need to drag him thru the mud. Must have been a bad break considering the lay off

    Alvarado was done, the ref and his corner prob woulda stopped soon anyway
     
    KO KIDD, Oct 21, 2013
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  4. Mr Pibb

    Mr Pibb Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Mr Pibb, Oct 21, 2013
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  5. Sugar 88

    Sugar 88 Woke Moralist-In-Chief

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    Poor Victor. He had all the tools to be great bar one.
     
    Sugar 88, Oct 21, 2013
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  6. Low_battery

    Low_battery New Member Full Member

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    Alvarado was taking a beating but Victor wasn't ? Everyone knows Maidana can crack . You think Victor quit for the fun of it ?
    Peeps be talking outta their ass .
     
    Low_battery, Oct 21, 2013
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  7. Consu

    Consu Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Ortiz had a good lead and put Maidana down twice. It was a good give and take fight but When things got real rough he mentally gave up and pretty soon ended up quitting. He said ''I don't deserve to be beaten like that''

    Lopez-Ortiz. Just watch Abraham or Burns fighting and I also believe that Alvarado would never quit in a close fight because of a broken jaw. Yes it is brutal and awful injury but we have seen it is not impossible to overcome.

    Alvarado was wobbling all over the place against Provodnikov and had nothing left. He was physically done and couldn't protect himself anymore. He fought his heart out and gave a big piece of himself that night. That kind of piece which never comes back.


    Just saying..............
     
    Consu, Oct 22, 2013
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  8. ricardinho

    ricardinho Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    His corner did stop the fight he wanted to keep fighting.
     
    ricardinho, Oct 23, 2013
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  9. lv lurker

    lv lurker fly on the wall Full Member

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    Watch the Prescott fight.
     
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  10. cippi

    cippi Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    its a touchy subject. so many things to think about.

    like victors broken jaw. do we now the severity of how bad it was broken? it seems like sum jaw breaks could be worse then others but i really have no clue wut im talking about as far as that.

    and then victor/maidana fight man... victor said **** it quick when the going got tuff i kno that fight didnt last over 6rds.

    then u gotta think wut would of happened if alvarado went in there with the same gamplan as victor did vs maidana ...if alvarado went toe to toe wit ruslan would it have been better for him? or would he of just quit in the corner due to a severe beating even earlier?

    or it coulda gave mike a shot if he went toe to toe.. because in the end he was forced to fight wit essentially wut he was avoiding all night . and if he would have done it when he was fresher,mentally stronger,more confident he could have won
     
    cippi, Oct 23, 2013
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  11. Flexb

    Flexb Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    lets see if I break your jaw if you want to keep fighting lol
     
    Flexb, Oct 24, 2013
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  12. Rico Spadafora

    Rico Spadafora Master of Chins Full Member

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    PLENTY of fighters have fought through a broken Jaw. Plenty. Sorry but that isn't an excuse to quit.
     
    Rico Spadafora, Oct 24, 2013
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  13. Mind Reader

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    Its called heart... Some have it, some do not.:yep
     
    Mind Reader, Oct 24, 2013
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  14. Babality

    Babality KTFO!!!!!!! Full Member

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    Not all injuries are equal. A broken jaw is not the same as another. I think Ortiz was in danger of serious long term damage in that fight. The broken jaw was protruding in some way, I read something about it. Some of you dudes are ruthless behind your keyboard.
     
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