Prime Calzaghe vs John Ruiz for the WBA Heavyweight title!

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who was the referee for Jones and Ruiz? Why are you wanting to use a skewed sample size and insert a different referee? We have to compare Apples to Apples here. Under the same conditions as the Jones-Ruiz fight Calzaghe could have done essentially the same thing. Pot shot and movement. If you want to argue what would happen if Steve Smoger or Randy Neumann was the referee then things might change. But, that would not be Apples to Apples it would be Apples to Oranges.

 

quote me where I asked for a different ref. if not, then stroll on.

surely you would need a welsh ref and not this guy that you are talking about.
That's what Joe usually relied on.

How about the one that carried Nathan Clev back to his corner? He'd come in handy in this fight numerous times.

 

Forget John Ruiz the real question has to be James Toney V Calzaghe at super middleweight, for me Toney would have destroyed Joe by vicious ko

 

yeah probs we should stick to SMW and weakened LHWs for Calzaghe matchups, as was his wont to fight. no point in fighting people who were above his station, let alone fantasy fighting them. How would Joe do against 40something James Toney, that's a better question andf far more fitting to Joe's own resume.

A mans gotta know his limitations, and roy's level was well beyond Joe's as Joe admitted (his words, not mine).

 

I have Joe Calzaghe just eeking out a controversial split decision against 40somethnig Toney, btw, after getting dropped in round 1 andoutboxed for half a fight he notices Toney gassing and throws loads to make up for being outboxed for 6 rounds and then just outpoints a gasping James.


Next Joe Calzaghe versus 40something Nigel Benn, what do you think? See this is much better.

 

Sorry but Ruiz anyday of the week

 

Calzaghe was used to sparring Enzo Mac. I think he would manage to get a decision over Ruiz.

 

Joe would get frozen on the canvas by a Toney right hand down the pipe.:deal

 

this is a prime Joe we're talking about, right?

even though he'd never step up to Heavyweight, i could see him getting a pretty clear decision.

the greatest risk would be the size and weight of Ruiz, so if he's not allowed to clinch all the time and lean on Joe, then i don't really see too many problems arising.

Joe would look to box on the counter without looking to get physical with Ruiz. he'd use his brain in this one. he'd let off shots of 2's and 3's then roll under to get back in position, then repeat.

Ruiz wouldn't let him have it all his own way though. he'd get in some of his own. but Joe WOULD be keeping it smart by being more defensive and making himself a smaller target. the shots he'd be hit with wouldn't be that clean. and he wouldn't be in the same place for long to take too many. Joe has a great chin, and Ruiz doesn't punch that hard. even if he is the bigger man in the fight.

a real tough fight that Joe takes on points.

 

is this the eliminator you keep talking about?

1) that fight wasn't an eliminator for the WBO.

2) they ripped Brewer off in that fight. Brewer dropped Antwon hard 3 times, but the ref let him continue. as soon as Brewer was dropped though (and not as badly as Antwon had been) the ref stopped it.
i'm sure you haven't even watched the fight.

3) and this is the biggie.... Echols was lined up to fight Joe on the undercard of Tyson up in Denmark. but Echols pulled out a week before the fight with injury so they had to bring in a late replacement to keep Joe on the card. he fought Will McCintire instead.

go and learn about the **** you talk before you make yourself look even sillier.

 

you must mean a different Hopkins. I am pretty sure Demetrius didn't fight Joe, even though Joe likes to pick weaklings he didn't go THAT low.

In this Hopkins fight, Bhop dominated for 5 rounds catching Joe again and again till in the 6th he started to gass. Then Calzaghe took advantage of the mans age and moved in.

if hops wasn't aged so much that he couldn't fight high pace anymore, the battering that you saw would have continued all night. Mind you, even prime Bernie would have to work hard for 12 rounds for the UD, Joe is no pushover.

prime Toney kills Joe, literally, because he'd keep getting up, but he;d not have the skill stop his defence getting split and floored all night. But old toney will gass out in the same way Hopkins did and prime joe can recover to scrape a win.