Kevin Johnson finally getting Koed or Odlanier Solis retiring?

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  1. GoodOldBoy

    GoodOldBoy Active Member Full Member

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    You sound alot like the Vitaly nuthuggers that claim that he acctually won verrsus Lewis. Next you'll be claiming that Solis has never really lost. Solis lost by tko fair and square. It's not like a flying sodacan hit Solis's head on his way into the ring that night.
     
  2. RememberingC.S.

    RememberingC.S. Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Well, according to the rules , whenever a fight is stopped, the win is given to the fighter ahead on the scorecards :deal .
    Vitali was ahead on all the judges scorecards.
    Additionally, it was enough to watch to the body languages, Lewis looked submissed and remissive, while Vitali a caged lion.
    And if that isn't enough, listen to the crowd noise, acclaming Vitali as the champion.
     
  3. chico g

    chico g What are you staring at Mr Trump?! hahaha! Full Member

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    50 / 50 . Johnson struggles against very tall heavy weights. He is a efficient outside boxer. Solis a good boxer as he is. Struggled against Larsen. This fight is hard to pick.
     
  4. iceman71

    iceman71 WBC SILVER Champion Full Member

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    Vitali punches Solis in his fat head
    Solis buckles and falls because of the punch to his fat head
    his fat knee was hurt in the fall from being knocked down
    he couldnt continue from being punched in his fat head and falling
    TKO1
    deal with it loser
    :deal
     
  5. madballster

    madballster VIP Member Full Member

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    You're obviously clueless. Getting booked to build up a fringe contender like Solis means you're a journeyman. Kingpin has no major promoter behind him and has to take whatever crappy purses and fights he's offered.
     
  6. Malden

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    Only when injuries are from accidents.
     
  7. Malden

    Malden 006 Full Member

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    :nod

    This could be interesting.
     
  8. Furey

    Furey EST & REG 2009 Full Member

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    Solis, easily.
     
  9. tommyt

    tommyt Member Full Member

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    he clearly didnt went down from the punch and I thought he was doing fine until the injury.
    I am still laughing at Klits post fight conf where he was talking about this very "special punch" that he was working on in camp.
     
  10. tommyt

    tommyt Member Full Member

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    Thats a shocker; in Germany ? impossible
     
  11. Malden

    Malden 006 Full Member

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    Fight was in LA.

    But of course scorecards didnt matter anyway, as Lewis stopped him legally.
     
  12. wallworkjake123

    wallworkjake123 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    No you idiot. A journeyman is a guy with a bad or losing record, someone you would book to fight the likes of Anthony Joshua Hughie Fury (at this stage of their careers) etc.

    You DKSAB.
     
  13. tommyt

    tommyt Member Full Member

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    My mistake; didnt read the whole post; thought he was talking about Solis fight
     
  14. chitownfightfan

    chitownfightfan VIP Member Full Member

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    Sorry bro, your'e wrong.

    Solis is no fringe contender. He's been fighting prospects and journeymen and fringe contenders and suffered his only loss in his title challenge.

    Johnson is not being brought in as an opponent. He is making this fight to get back into contention.
    As far as Kingpin having no promoter.....who cares. He's gotten several good fights lately and has a good chance of getting another title shot if he wins this fight and a few more against 'journeymen".

    Solis has pretty much an open offer to fight Wlad as a voluntary. He's a top 10 HW with an impressive but not stellar resume. He's been lowballed a few times and not needing for money, he's chosen to take less profitable and less risky fights.

    This fight immediately gives one or the other a very loud voice in terms of demands against other contenders.:good
     
  15. madballster

    madballster VIP Member Full Member

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    In testimony to the United States Senate Committee on Commerce, Science, and Transportation, DeGuardia[3] states that becoming a journeyman is the fate of many professional boxers, and that a boxer will realize that he has become a journeyman "after about 10 years" in the profession. Journeymen boxers float "from promoter to promoter, or manager to manager, hoping to get placed as opponents in fights" by promoters, and making very little money. They will "fight all the time, anywhere, in order to make enough money to get by". In earlier testimony to the committee, it had been reported that some journeymen boxers regard themselves as existing in the sport solely as "a body for better men to beat on".[4]

    Now that a perfect description of what Kingpin's career has degraded to. He is a former top 15 boxer is now merely a journeyman. He now gets booked by contenders to beat him up and string up a win against Kingpin because he lasted the distance with Vitali.

    Kingpin in my book fulfills all the hallmarks of a journeyman: changing promoters often, lacking big fight offers for years, fights for small purses, gets booked by contenders (Solis, Fury) so they can look good against him :deal