Floyd is the best, but not as much as it seems

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by YCGS, Nov 15, 2013.


  1. YCGS

    YCGS Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Floyd's skills are undeniable. He obviously works hard in the gym and like few others he actually works on improving his skills where most just train the same and get in the ring with the "I'm gonna do what I do" mentality. He is the best, I just think his opponent choices have magnified that.

    Looking at his recent resume, and omissions though you see a very predictable pattern. What do Canelo, Guerrero, Cotto, Mosley (the version that Floyd fought) have in common? Well documented stamina issues. And getting Canelo to shave off 2 more pounds was brilliant from a Floyd Mayweather perspective. (I think Canelo's stupid gameplan was much more of a factor than cardio though.) Any fight is a risk, but these were well calculated risks.

    What do Paul Williams, Margarito and Manny have in Common? high volume punchers that don't get frustrated when they miss with a lot of punches. I think any one of these guys would have given Floyd a coin toss fight. Tim Bradley would also give Floyd some problems because of his pressure. (although he is a bit too reckless)

    Floyd will go down as the best boxing business related fighter of all time. I doubt any other fighter makes nearly as much money with the level of comp he fought. He didn't always fight who the fans wanted but put yourself in a fighters shoes... would you rather be Ali, Gatti, Toney, Frazier or Mayweather? Fans of any fighter are kidding themselves if they can't see that $ is the number one driver for all fighters. Boxing is heavily flawed and to expect the best to "prove" themselves is a pipedream for us, the fans. It is what it is. When they do take those tough fights, we should be appreciative. Boxing is so tied to gambling that it will never be the ideal.
     
  2. brando

    brando Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I smell ten fold contradictions on this thread
     
  3. mafioso

    mafioso Well-Known Member Full Member

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    pacquiao ony throw high volume against stationnary opponent...his combinations disapear against foot work.

    margarito wouldnt have landed more than 15% for sure maybe 20% for williams.
     
  4. YCGS

    YCGS Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Ok...even though your sentence actually makes no sense, please elaborate...
     
  5. lefthandlead

    lefthandlead Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Calzaghe is the best.
     
  6. acie2g

    acie2g Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Pacquiao and Bradley would be interesting fights against legit champs and HOFers Pacquiao hid behind his promoter and Bradley has recently said as long as he's with top rank a Mayweather fight is impossible.

    Margarito and Williams no those are two overhyped bums who really didn't do or accomplish a thing in the sport are people that mad he didn't fight them and instead fought guys better because that makes no sense to me. How the hell with a straight face mention Mosley as being lesser when he beat the **** outta Margarito before facing Mayweather in a combined 90 fights the only notable wins you can mention is possibly cheating Cotto and two robberies over Martinez and Lara
     
  7. Badbot

    Badbot You can just do things. Full Member

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    Williams, at tines landed 20% agaibst A abd B level fighters:lol:
     
  8. stormy

    stormy Live and Learn Full Member

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    being the best, but not that good , whatever way you look at it,for over 10 years, is something I wish i could of made happen just like Floyd has done.:deal
     
  9. Bald_Toad

    Bald_Toad Ring Title Full Member

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    he avoids certain styles. he thought ruined cotto would be a walk in the park, but ended up having his "toughest" fight.
     
  10. YCGS

    YCGS Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I agree that Pac and Bradley have not made a fight with Floyd any easier. Bradley signing with Top Rank bascally guaranteed that wouldn't happen, and Pacs blood test stance was flat out ridiculous.

    As for PWill and Marg it is about style matchups. Are either better than Floyd? H*ll no. Was Ken Norton a better boxer than Ali? No. He was a B level fighter and he beat Ali. Paul Williams "beat" Lara with his volume punches and if you don't think that judges would be impressed to see someone throw that much leather at Mayweather and possibly give rounds to PWIll, then you haven't watched enough boxing. How much he landed would be irrelevant. At the time when a Margarito fight was in demand, no one knew he was a useless cheater, and Mosleys win over him means little, as everyone was destroying Margarito after that.
     
  11. boyschoir

    boyschoir Boxing Addict Full Member

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    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ru3MZcNQ8SQ

    yup Pac is hiding behind top rank :lol: