The Double Standard of Freddie Roach.... This guy is a COMPLETE disgrace to OUR SPORT

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by walk with me, Nov 21, 2013.


  1. stormy

    stormy Live and Learn Full Member

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    if that someone was an old guy that i had prior issies with>>> id wait till we were alone and went and had a heart to heart with him, But thats just me.

    Ariza had no business interfering. Gracia went over his allotted time. Some teams paly mind games with others all the time. If Freddy thought they were trying to mess with him then he had a right to tell them to leave. Their time was up. They wouldnt agree to leave. Freddy has to.... a) tell them to fk off , or b) ask them nicely to fk off, or c) wait till they say so in spite of seeing Ariza glaring at him in a way most of us would react to. d) go back to Manny and tell him he can train when Garcia will let them into the gym.


    Roach is angry and thats not up for debate. Its a great way to distract the other team from keeping there mind on the job. Top marks Freddy!! its a win win for him once again.:deal
     
  2. dangerousity

    dangerousity Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Look at my join date, now deduce from that how old you think I might be? Like I said, you lack simple thought process. Now any one with simple common sense would assume that a poster who has been registered on the site for nearly 10 years would be out of school by now, unless you believe I joined the site when I was 7 years old?

    You accused everyone of being racist, and you think thats not insulting anyone? Might as well go round calling everyone child molesters too huh? Truly a moron.
     
  3. Beatle

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    Bob Arum (of Top Rank): "Brandon's training session ran ten minutes over his allotted time, and Freddie Roach got pissed because he had other guys to train."

    Of course both sides have done bad things. So it's important who STARTED. If I stole your car stereo and you called me a f###ing Jew as a response, we both would have done something wrong but you would be the person in the right. If people had to take someone's side, they'd take your side, because I would have wronged you first and provoked your anger.

    Garcia stole Roach's gym time FIRST. Roach went to Garcia RESPECTFULLY at first and Garcia responded very arrogantly "We ain't goin' nowhere". Instead of being rude, Garcia could have ASKED for the extra gym time, but he's so ignorant he can't fathom that. Only after being disrespected TWICE did Roach start disrespecting back, after which he was cursed, kicked and mocked for his disease. And you take Garcia's side. I'm glad you're not a judge.

    You've been watching too much CNN and Fox News if you're so sensitive to two words that were said in the heat of provoked anger. The words "Jew" and "Mexican" have hurt you so much that you don't even care about the events that took place before them and really caused them.

    I don't see racism here. Boxing is a tough-guy sport, and Roach wanted to show how tough he is when he reacted like that (and I stress the word REACTED). He has trained several Mexicans, including Israel Vasquez, Chavez Jr, Andy Ruiz (now) and Oscar De La Hoya. If Roach hated Mexicans, Andy Ruiz wouldn't be with him.


    Why is team Rios doing interviews in the gym and not somewhere else? Team Pacquiao shouldn't have to give their preparation time to team Rios to let them be interviewed on TV. And it doesn't matter that Pacquiao hadn't arrived yet. Roach still needed the gym to train his other fighters. It's disrespectful to take another team's gym time without even asking - that's why Roach got angry. I don't even like Freddie Roach, but the hatred he's getting (all fabricated by Elfie Suckbag) is so absurd that I'm compelled to defend Roach.
     
  4. Beatle

    Beatle Sheer Analysis Full Member

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    What you say is obvious to anyone who can use the left side of their brain, but on a boxing forum you're not exactly dealing with scholars.

    People's brains are so full of rubbish TV propaganda that they get "offended" at the mere mention of someone's race.
     
  5. Florez

    Florez Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    :deal
     
  6. gurby22

    gurby22 Active Member Full Member

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    Lol it's funny how you say you don't even like Roach, when you sound like such a hypocrite trying to defend him. Your comparison to Garcia stealing Roach's car stereo makes no sense whatsoever. I like how you capitalized how Roach RESPECTIVELY went up to Garcia and politely told him to please evacuate from the premises. Look at the video again, from the beginning Garcia mentions Roach calling him a piece of ****. Where are you getting your facts from? You are talking like you were there. You even bring up that Pacquiao wasn't even there and then say that Roach made such a big deal because he couldn't train his other fighters, which he is specifically in Macau for lol. I also think both "camps" were at fault, and by camp I am singling out Ariza specifically. I think he is a piece of ****. But I also think Roach is a piece of ****, in this case and in many other interviews he has done. Yet you are talking **** about the whole Garcia camp even though Robert didn't say **** and Rios stayed completely out of the altercation. It seems like most people are pissed off from Ariza's actions (Who already had bad blood with Roach, no matter who he was working with), but don't want to place any blame on "tough guy" Roach who came up to them talking **** and even tells them "throw me out then, throw me out" lol. What about when Buboy attacked the photographer taking pictures of a knocked out Manny? Physically attack a person who is just doing their job??? The whole camp is a piece of ****! Lol ****ing hypocrites :lol:
     
  7. Florez

    Florez Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Pacquiao vs Rios - Episode 3.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8VdmTVsl4o8

    Skip to: 20:04

    Before Freddie Roach approached Garcia & his team, the HBO team caught it on video. Garcia and his team knew Freddie Roach was waiting. They could have done the interview somewhere else instead of using someone else's time.


    - Ellie Seckbach: ''What time are you here, the other team just arrived''.

    - Robert Garcia: ''We're not done, we're not going. We're still gonna do 30 more minutes, I don't give a f##k, f##k em''.
     
  8. gurby22

    gurby22 Active Member Full Member

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    :lol: You were on Roach's nuts before that when the video showed him calling Garcia a piece of **** first.
     
  9. Florez

    Florez Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Before Freddie Roach approached Robert Garcia,

    - Robert Garcia: ''We're not done, we're not going. We're still gonna do 30 more minutes, I don't give a f##k, f##k em''.


    and then after that........

    - Alex Ariza kicked Freddie Roach.
    - Garcia & his team mocking Roach's illness and laughing.
     
  10. gurby22

    gurby22 Active Member Full Member

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    From the video I saw Garcia was asking Roach why he was calling him a piece of ****. Then Roach starts trying to act like a bad ass getting in his face and starts telling them to kick him out. I understand he has Parkinson's but that doesn't mean he can walk around anywhere he wants acting like he owns everyone. If anything, all of the people feeling pity for him and saying he needs special privileges are being more offensive to him by implying he can't handle his own.
     
  11. Overhill

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    @5.00 :-( David Diaz calls Manny a fucger.
     
  12. LondonRingRules

    LondonRingRules Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Yeah but he didnt say you Hispanic mother ****er did he? He said Mexican...

    If someone said you American Mother ****er would you call them racist?
     
  13. Overhill

    Overhill Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Pretty funny considering you're vladimir23. :lol:

    http://9rm52pnjcvdzcxx3.zippykid.ne...-wigger-party/The Wigger Party 6.8.08 012.jpg
     
  14. Beatle

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    Save your breath: this forum is loaded with ******ed people. There are people here who think Roach just went up to Garcia and called him a piece of **** just for the hell of it.

    1st) Roach told Garcia he was on his (Roach's) time.

    2nd) Garcia arrogantly said "We ain't goin' nowhere".

    3rd) Roach called him a piece of **** (actually, he's an ignorant thief, but who cares).
     
  15. Jim Bowen

    Jim Bowen MARVELOUS Full Member

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    Why's no one talking about Ariza mocking his Parkinsons, or even the fact that Rios and Margarito have done so in the past, so obviously Freddie has had issues with them in the past. This clearly doesn't excuse Freddie, but neither should the disgraceful behaviour of the Garcia camp past and present be overlooked.