arum stfu, here are the facts. sorry about the endless ramb

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Staminakills, Nov 22, 2013.


  1. Staminakills

    Staminakills Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    sorry about the length, i know it sucks.
    please do NOT reply unless you had read all my venting. all fact guys, except the part about me saying how far superior money is. fact to me but its really opinion, yes i know. but the eyes dont lie to honest peopls

    OMG WTF is wrong with some of you,
    how do some not get it ??? when paq has a fight (hand picke) arum WILL mention paq is ready and willing to face money ONLY to build more interest in said cherry opponent. paq usually ends up going out and losing to said cherry due to bad socks or wrong gloves or family issues or issues in his home counry.

    guys, arum has NEVER wanted this fight, i truly believe manny has and still wants this fight but even roach KNOWS manny has never nor will ever stand a chance. he doesn't even have a punchers chance.. he doesn't possess the power at WW needed to have a punchers chance.

    these 2 guys are not remotely close to the same level once in that ring, floyd is light years above manny. if one doesnt reconise that then they truly DKSAB period. paq did have some entertaining fights but to call him one of the most exciting is fkn ridiculous, he is NOT entertaining like *******s claim, (wow my first ever time using *******)

    paq has truly had numerous chances to get a money fight done BUT it was ALWAYS team paq that walked away, FACT. **** floyd signed the contract first time around at end of 2009 or beginning of 2010. paq had the true opportunity to step in for JMM while all floyd had to do with jmm was pay him 1M step aside and a contract for him to fight the winner.. BOTH team money and team jmm were 100% on board but team paq never addressed it. IDIOTS, that was money coming off a 2 yr layoff.

    moneys primary reason for coming back so quickly, (it was gonna be a longer break) and the break was no real retirement unless his body wouldnt completely heal and or his hunger never came back.

    he told the world a few months before signing to fight jmm, he was coming back to whoop the best and specifically mentioned paq's name. sadly most of boxing "fans" don't truly pay attention and go off what other clowns say from their pathetic couches..

    sorry, but arum will ONLY let this fight happen for paq's final cash out fight. which could be now, he hasnt looked good in a winning effort in YEARS.. fkn years guys. look jmm got old real quick, he is DONE, completely done, that is why team paq wants him immediately after rios.

    why is it that arum NEVER says these kinds of things when both paq and money are free. meaning no fight signed and no mando needed immediately or as next fight. team money had gone out of their way to make this fight more then once by giving in to everything, including testing. money was giving a 50/50 with 2 weeks NO testing, gave into 10M per lb, ring size and gloves. its funny how people try to say paq gave into everything.. paq was the one with ALL the demands, money had 1 ONE demand and team paq said NO. come on guys WTF.

    paq has lost any and all negotiating power, he has NON now and will have to accept the low end of everything. smg bad like 70/30 now, he will lose that 20% he ws originally offered and will lose the 2 weeks of no testing.. while floyd will be able to pick ring type and ring size..

    arum and roach stutter moneys name as a possible opponent ONLY when one of them has a fight lined up... rios is wicked dangerous for paq unless paq is completely 100% and using special shakes.. i know its not a fact paq is a PED user but how can anyone see differently. as soon as testing came in he started immediately changing for the worse as a fighter, and now he is an ok to good WW, nothing more.

    rios is by far the toughest opponent paq had ever faced. way way tougher than marg.. marg is\was a journeyman with a B+ to A-chin, bam bam has the true A+ chin. his chin is like GGG's. they are both phukin ridiculously gifted in the chin department. like almost both are unreal in that area. bam bam has the power to KO manny at any time while paq has NO shot at a KO over bam bam.. he could possibly beat him into tko territory but i doubt it. bam bam is suseptible to the body but going to the body is dangerous as it leaves you more open than anyone wants to be.

    this truly spells cherry pick, showcase fight going horribly wrong. bam bam has true skills too, not 100% tough guy only. unlike marg (too many peeps compare them and they are so friggin different its funny) he can throw all the shots with deadly power. another thing that's funny, well, its sad that i read it so much is that the jmm KO wont happen again like jmm is some huge power puncher, bigger puncher than money and bam bam.. wtf guys floyd hits WAY harder than jmm and i'm pretty sure rios hits just as hard if not harder. jmm simply sits on more punches than money but money hits way harder so he could easily KO paq if they fought. he plays it safe so one could assume he wont go for any KO but against paq he will want to prove a point and will sit on many shots and paq will fold badly..

    again sorry for the BS lengt but my venting wont stop, sadly i could go on forever but w/e i'll stop.

    i'm picking rios to stop paq but wont be surprised by anything. IF it makes it to the cards no matter what happens paq get the dec.
     
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  2. Staminakills

    Staminakills Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    man, how do i forget the MOST important thing to make sure the fight wont happen.

    paq has KNOWN for years if arum wasnt involved the fight is easy to make. paq becomes a free agent and immediately locks himself back with arum for years. ok ok loyalty, so he could have been a free agent, made the fight, took his whoopin and signed back with arum after. we all know paq will have big money fights no matter how many Losses he takes. so a money loss wont kill him. why not see if how he could make it while arum that fkn theif was sidelined..

    wtf wtf wtf..
    paq is now clean (obviously) and showing the world by takin the tests. why way 3 years to take the tests after signing back up with the biggest roadblock thats always been arum...
     
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  3. The Peasant

    The Peasant Crops Full Member

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    Its... Its just too much t-to read man. Too much
     
  4. Staminakills

    Staminakills Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    ok, i now have in fact proven to myself esb is full of children. seriously it would take someone in elementery school 45/50 seconds to read the post.

    now i know why all i read on here is utter ignorance and childish BS, nothing like real fans.. what forum has people 16 and over ?
     
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  5. Zacker

    Zacker Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Uh-huh. So do you know what tl;dr means?
     
  6. fatcity

    fatcity Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Dude,you lost me at "sorry".
     
  7. Gerushio

    Gerushio Active Member Full Member

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    hey. that dead horse is dead. stop beatin it.
     
  8. P.M.

    P.M. Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I've always notice how when PAC doesn't have a fight signed he won't talk opponents. Soon as he signs fight he'd talk mayweather all day. They used Floyd's name to promote fights without ever really trying to make the fight happen. Now Pacquiao has lost his last two fights he can't use the potential mayweather angle to promote fights.
     
  9. Gerushio

    Gerushio Active Member Full Member

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    so because no one wants to read your poorly written,run on sentences they're children? Anyone can google the negotiations we dont need your personal version.
     
  10. The Peasant

    The Peasant Crops Full Member

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    The fact that people don't feel like wasting precious time on reading an angry essay (*likely badly) written by some idiot on the internet doesn't mean that they're immature or childish. I'd say it proves the exact opposite.

    Its funny that you think you deserve people's attention while being some random forumite. If you were a boxing writer/blogger, hell even fat Dan, I'd read that post- but you're a no one and your opinion doesn't matter. Did mom give you a bit too much attention as a child?


    So the lesson for today is; be succinct, because no one feels like reading a shitty essay on a forum.
     
  11. C.J.

    C.J. Boxings Living Legend revered & respected by all Full Member

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    Just for the hell of it I did read the garbage ROFL
    It shows what a clown you must be to believe one word that comes out of Mayweather's filthy mouth. You say he didn't "RETIRE" but he did . He retired in tears saying no one loved him & he was retired for good. He had Ellerbee consoling him while hew sobbed like a fat old mother hen & her chick.
    Face facts Floyd is nothing more than a cowardly, woman beating street punk who was blessed with God Given boxing talents but cursed by being given the balls of a gnat
     
  12. boyschoir

    boyschoir Boxing Addict Full Member

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    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ne9rVXgwFBI

    Pac uses Floyd's name? :nut:rofl:rofl:rofl
     
  13. Barrera

    Barrera Defeated Boxing_master Full Member

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    read it all .. nothing suprises me .. im not even sure if the die hard pacquiao fans deny that arum held this fight up.... i mean when you look at what arums job is as a promoter.. its almost like it was a gaurentee for him to not want this fight.. when floyd was fighting lesser guys for big bucks.. and arums been in the game long enough to know...

    floyd could have done more to corner pac and his team but he hid behind this "i dont need pac he needs me" which is more true then it is false.. i wish floyd had done to pac what mosley did to him and jumped in the ring and said a few choice words... boxing needs more balls..
     
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  14. HitBattousai

    HitBattousai Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Arum or no Arum, the fight wasn't going to get made on Floyd's end. His history has repeatedly demonstrated this. Floyd fights for money, he does not fight for legacy. If he did, we'd be looking forward to him facing Pac, Martinez, or GGG, none of which are world beaters(especially now with Pac and Martinez faded) instead of likely Amir Khan.
     
  15. Xelloss

    Xelloss Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Pretty sure a big part of it is FMJ extreme dislike for Arum. Didnt he say he would never put a cent in Arum's pocket? I have always had this feeling that since Arum is not a fighter or trainer and is strictly the business end.. "Money" May was quite likely being perfectly honest.

    After all, a PAC fight would generate huge dollars. I figure at least half the problem with getting this fight made, is that Arum would share in a good portion of those huge dollars. Even though he likes money, he still making plenty without Arum involved.