Vitali Klitschko's weakness

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  1. Zakman

    Zakman ESB's Chinchecker Full Member

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    Yeah, no ****. Byrd hardly "had his number." Rather, he got lucky that Vitali was injured. Otherwise he would have lost a wide UD. And, he almost certainly would have lost the rematch had they fought again.
     
  2. madballster

    madballster VIP Member Full Member

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    I was replying to a GIF that showed Vitali missing every shot. I asked if Vitali missed all his shots, then we did he win the majority of the rounds?
     
  3. Beatle

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    Vitali never fought the slick defensive guys after being embarrassed by Chris Byrd (watch the fight: Vitali was punching air for 9 rounds, whereas Byrd was landing clean on Vitali more and more often with each passing round).

    Vitali quit because he was on his way to getting knocked out. After that, he left all these technical guys to Wlad (including Byrd himself). Also Eddie Chambers, David Haye and Ruslan Chagaev went to Wlad, not Vitali.

    Vitali takes on all fat plodders like Stiverne, Arreole and Peter. Go Vitali! You look like Muhammad Ali when you fight these slow fat beer-drinkers!
     
  4. T.S.

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    I think Vitali won every round and had Chisora spitting large amounts of blood into a bucket after the 7th rnd (watch it again).

    Vitali gave Chisora a professor to student boxing lesson :bbb:hat
     
  5. JacK Rauber

    JacK Rauber Try not to offend, try harder not to be offended Full Member

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    The reality is both brothers have always been physical specimens. Older brother is clearly the tougher of the two.

    VK had real stamina issues until Emanuel Stewart started working with him. The turnaround wasn't overnight but it began the transition from a physically gifted big man into a more talented boxer.

    The key to VK winning in many of his fights is the officiating. If they penalize him for clinching and force him to fight the whole fight he is vulnerable. If not, he can jab, clinch and hold against the best out them, and just grind out a win.

    VK is a very good fighter, has a pulverizing jab, despite what some say here. Just due to his size, if he can hit anyone consistently with the jab, jab, straight right, he will take just about anyone out. However, if he is forced to fight against any of the big, talented heavyweights, it is a pick'em fight.

    Prior to Stewart working with VK he was unable to hold and hit, the way he does now. That is why Corey Sanders KO'd him. VK's stamina was atrocious.

    So, if I were to pick his primary weakness, even today, it would be his stamina. Force him to fight and you may get him.
     
  6. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me Full Member

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    Thumbs and razor dreadlocks. :deal
     
  7. mikedokes

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    Wlad not Vitali.
     
  8. JacK Rauber

    JacK Rauber Try not to offend, try harder not to be offended Full Member

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    Yeah, my mistake. I always get their names mixed up.
     
  9. Stallion

    Stallion Son of Rome Full Member

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    Vitali's "weakness" doesn't have much to do with slick defensive fighters, especially if they are relatively small like Byrd. It's absurd to say something like that.
     
  10. rapidfire

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    Watch the fight, he was missing a lot and Byrd took over the fight after round 3. He was much more competitive than he does get credit for. It wasn´t onesided, neither was Vitaly handicapped by an injury, he still threw punches with both hands for how long the fight did last, unfortunately for him most of his punches missed target.
     
  11. rapidfire

    rapidfire Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Vitaly was not winning easy. The scorecards indicated a onesided fight, however, after round 3 the fight was competitive.

    And as for the circumstances, there was no sign of Vitaly being handicapped. Probably they brought up an injury just as an excuse.
     
  12. Ahurath

    Ahurath Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Yeah I don't really understand that he quit that fight. I know it was something with his shoulder but then again why didn't he just carry on for 2 more rounds?
     
  13. Stallion

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    I'm not sure what are you pointing at. Like I said, being a slick defensive boxer like Byrd isn't a key to beat Vitali Klitschko (unless you have size to match him). It Vitali didn't quit, Byrd would have lost the fight. Even if Vitali fought with 1 arm and lost all the remaining rounds, he would have still won the fight. Of course, Byrd won legitimately and deserved it, so I'm not taking anything from him.

    The key to defeat Vitali is to have size, or at least not to be significantly outsized. It would have been interesting if he fought a top-shape Lennox or Wladimir. Also, I wish Solis didn't injure himself during the fight. It could have been really interesting and maybe you would have seen Vitali being uncomfortable.
     
  14. rapidfire

    rapidfire Well-Known Member Full Member

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    If you agree with the official scorecards off course.

    I for my part think that the fight should´ve been closer (German commentary had it almost even in the last round fought). After 3rd round, when Byrd started his own offense, it was competitive with Byrd taking the fight over.

    We will never know what would´ve happened in a rematch, but i wouldn´t rule out a Byrd win with neutral judges involved.
     
  15. andrewa1

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    That's absolutely nuts. First of all, let me say that I think Byrd was doing better than some people on here say, and better than the official scorecard. I had Vitali leading in a close one, and compubox had it close as well. Vitali's post fight interview revealed he thought he was behind on the scorecards. That's why he quit, he made the rational determination that if he was losing anyway, he didn't want to jeopardize his career by worsening the injury. It was the right call, look at Helenius/Magomed.

    But he was clearly hampered by injury, he was dominant in the first couple rounds, and then wasn't throwing the same way. He didn't rematch Byrd because no one but braindead haters had any doubt he was the better fighter, and it would have been a boring fight that wouldn't have gained him anything (because the haters were going to use it against him no matter what at that point).

    As far as him being bad against technical fighters, that's a bs myth. People like you were saying Kevin Johnson was going to beat him for that reason, and look what happened there. Johnson is a better technical fighter than any contender you mentioned except Byrd and Chambers(Haye is good technically, but no better than Adamek or others, and less good than Johnson, his power is what makes him a better fighter than Johnson). VK's got nothing left to prove against technical fighters.

    His real weakness, to the extent he has any, is against very tall reachy fighters. He relies on incredible reflexes to lean back and dodge punches from his opponents. That works less well against taller fighters. Lewis is a good example of that. If there's a missing link in his resume, its not beating a top superheavyweight (Sanders and Briggs were 6'4, closest to it but just shy of what I'd consider superheavyweight). He wanted to fight Valuev, which would have solved that gap, but Valuev chose not to take the biggest payday of his career (and after his championship run!) to avoid the beatdown VK would have given him.