2013 exposed many HW contenders as hypejobs

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  1. JAB5239

    JAB5239 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Why, with the talent level somehow improve?
     
  2. JAB5239

    JAB5239 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    What era showed less overall skills and the top contenaders fighting each other so infrequently?
     
  3. madballster

    madballster Loyal Member Full Member

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    Chisora, Johnson and Cunningham were ranked 20-50 when Fury beat them, they were nowhere near being "top ranked Heavyweights".

    Chisora came off victories over the likes of ***ton and Williams, then ballooned up to 261 lbs before fighting Fury. And Fury still struggled with him :rofl
     
  4. madballster

    madballster Loyal Member Full Member

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    The 30s, 50s and 80s. I'd love to see how you're going to conclusively prove that HW contenders e.g. in the 1980s were more likely to fight each other than today. Oh and before we start, the skill level in the top 25 HW of the early 1980s was appalling.
     
  5. JAB5239

    JAB5239 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    The skill level in the 80's was FAR better. Combination and body punching, better movement and defense, better stamina. When i get home i will easily prove this argument through video. The problem with the 80's is it was plagued by drug abuse.
     
  6. Saintpat

    Saintpat Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Fury was exposed when he retired.
     
  7. dinovelvet

    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

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    The 80s had skill levels you don't see today. The standard in todays era is a joke.
     
  8. madballster

    madballster Loyal Member Full Member

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    So you're saying 200-210 lbs fighters have better movement and better stamina than 245 lbs fighters? That's analogous to saying Cruiserweights are naturally more skilled than heavyweights which is ridiculous.

    Make sure you don't compare apples to oranges. Physical parameters are NOT a learned skill.
     
  9. kirk

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    Cunningham wasnt even close to the betting favorite for that fight.

    Most bookmakers had it a 5-1 fight for Fury. Some even 7-1.

    I want to know what book had steve the favorite.
     
  10. JAB5239

    JAB5239 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    No, Im comparing heavyweights to heavyweights. But lets talk about learned skills since you brought it up. What learned skills do heavyweights do better today than in the 80's? They don't show overall better defensive techniques such as slipping and parrying punches. They don't throw as many combinations or feint as much. They don't use the ring or move their heads as much. They're bigger, slower, and more out of shape...that's it.
     
  11. ko_bros

    ko_bros Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Umm, being exposed after 64 fights and almost a decade of being a champ. Thats something new. Oh, and in the fight where he got exposed, he won every round. Interesting :think
     
  12. dinovelvet

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    It was the best guy he fought in a long time and he couldn't cut it without fouling to the extreme.
    People where saying he was in his prime and was unstoppable but it was only because he was getting away with excesssive fouling while fighting bottom feeders.
    He was exposed as not being that great the way i see it.
     
  13. shadz96

    shadz96 Active Member Full Member

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    i dont wont be disrespectful with his condition and carear ending injury but mago also counts in the thread
     
  14. user9992

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    How? Winning all rounds?