Why Lifting Weights Won't Increase Punching Power

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  1. wildchild

    wildchild Member Full Member

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    I've stumbled on this site recently, and I got to admit I pretty much agree on most of his points especially the part where he explains Punching is a snapping motion, NOT a pushing motion and Powerful Punches Require Relaxation, NOT Strong Muscles as most coaches that I know also said that punching power does not come on how much you can bench press but it comes from proper technique, delivery, speed and timing. Also, most boxers like manny pacquiao, nonito donaire, Floyd mayweather, Rigo and some legends like muhammad ali, SRR, Hearns, doesn't look like they lift weights, but they could knock you out of your consciousness. Their body shape comes from years of training not from lifting weights.

    I would rather take punch from a 225 lbs body builder than 147 lbs Manny Pacquiao.

    Anyway, here's the article.

    http://www.expertboxing.com/boxing-...-lifting-weights-wont-increase-punching-power

    What's your take?
     
  2. tdf1974

    tdf1974 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    that is a bit like saying you would rather have a dog bite from a highland terrier than a mastiff!
     
  3. bballchump11

    bballchump11 2011 Poster of the Year Full Member

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    I know from personal experience that it does. And I love expertboxing.com, but he's more of an expert on actual boxing, not in the sports science and nutritional part though.
     
  4. viru§™

    viru§™ Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    My take is that you believe what you want to believe.

    If you want to believe the rambling opinions of a boxer over the facts of a strength and conditioning coach, go ahead my friend.

    All muscles do are contract and relax. If you believe that having muscles that contact faster and stronger would not equate to a more powerful punch then you need to read a few books. Even mentioning bench press shows your ignorance on this matter.
     
  5. scrap

    scrap Boxing Addict Full Member

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    As long as you work with resistance, at over speed, there should not be a problem. understanding Muscle works on Touch and Feel, thats what it responds too.
     
  6. pecho26

    pecho26 ESB Lurker Full Member

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    I couldnt even bare to read after the first paragraph.
     
  7. PugilistStudent

    PugilistStudent Active Member Full Member

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    Idiocy. "Duh...being stronger doesnt make me more powerful....durrr". You took old school mentality which is a little bit misguided back even further to the stone age.
     
  8. NVSemin

    NVSemin Sugar Boxing Full Member

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    expertboxing gives detailed answers to wrong questions
    try sugarboxing instead, it gives rough answers to right questions
     
  9. viru§™

    viru§™ Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I managed to get to this point -

    Then I couldn't take any more.
     
  10. Punisher73

    Punisher73 Member Full Member

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    I always hate articles like this. They take a little bit of fact and then oversimplify the question.

    If weight wasn't important, like in their example of a 225 lb. bodybuilder vs. Manny at 147, then why do we have weight classes.

    A "bodybuilder" isn't concerned with knowing how to box and trains accordingly for his own sport. In this case, getting as much hypertrophy in the muscles as possible and dieting to get as cut as possible to show them off.

    I think it's common sense that someone who KNOWS how to punch will punch harder than someone who DOESN'T know how to punch. Which is what they are trying to argue.

    So, to rephrase their dumb question...

    would you rather get hit by a prime Mike Tyson or Manny Pacquiao? Or would you rather get hit by a 225 lb. bodybuilder or a 147 lb. tech geek that doesn't work out at all?
     
  11. nathyc

    nathyc New Member Full Member

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  12. NVSemin

    NVSemin Sugar Boxing Full Member

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    are you guys spamming here on behalf of expertboxing?
     
  13. viru§™

    viru§™ Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    More ramblings from some kid that's incredibly ignorant on the subject he seems to think he's a professional.
     
  14. NVSemin

    NVSemin Sugar Boxing Full Member

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    He is a specialist in SEO and promoting his blog online, since you guys are quoting him, he is successfull. I have to admit, 8.000 visitors per day, 7500 FB likes, 200+ post and such are not bull****. His blog covers some niche for fitness-boxing, should not be used by serious athlets though.
     
  15. Butch Coolidge

    Butch Coolidge Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    My take on it: Yes and No.

    Power isn't worth a **** if you can never land a punch.

    If you workout for a heavy one rep max you will probably reduce the capacity of the quantity of work you will need to do. Boxing is closer to an endurance sport than a strength sport IMO.

    On the plus side for weight lifting, the more plyometric lifts have a lot in common with punching. Take split jerks for example; doing split jerks you use your legs, haunches and core to accelerate your arms gripping either a barbell or dumbbell over your head. This requires timing and coordination very much like punching. You could probably add some power to your punching by doing split jerks and other plyometric lifts sometimes called "functional strength" lifts. Just make sure you're not robbing Peter to pay Paul i.e. gaining strength but losing endurance.

    Physical strength and explosiveness are impressive attributes but if I was training a boxer I would prefer for him to be an EFFECTIVE puncher moreso than an explosive puncher; punching from maximum range with maximum leverage and great accuracy. Handpads, body protectors, heavy bags and double end bags are better for making effective punchers than dumbbells and barbells.