Your top 10 greatest Heavyweight of all time?

What criteria are you using to rank Liston so high and over the likes of Louis of all people. Not knocking your list, I am genuinely intrigued.

 

Ah, ok. :good

 

Joe Louis
Mike Tyson
James Jefferies
Ali
Foreman
Holmes
Marciano
Liston
Jersey Joe Walcott
Frazier

these men on their ABSOLUTE Best nights 'can' beat any HWs and back n forth with one another too...

S-HWs
LL
Bowe
Klit
Klit2
Carl Williams
Jack Johnson

 

Jack Johnson........a SUPER HW ?

 

a believe he was over 6' 3" and weighed more than 225lbs, so Yes!

 

I rank based mostly on resume, (so quality of opposition beaten is far and away my top consideration) followed by achievements, (such as a long time spent holding the title, multiple reigns, etc.) and then at the end my perception of how fighters would do in a H2H basis, although this has by far the lowest consideration.

I also don't rank anyone that doesn't have extensive video footage of them, which means certain old timers get squeezed. They were great fighters and all, but sorry, I'm not including anything I can't see for myself as proof.

The bottom half or so of my list changes often, but it would go something like this:

1. Ali
2. Louis
3. Holmes
4. Foreman
5. Lewis
6. Marciano
7. Holyfield
8. Tyson
9. Frazier
10. Liston

Honorable mentions for Dempsey, Johnson, Patterson, Wlad.

 

1. Joe Louis
2. Muhammad Ali
3. Rocky Marciano
4. Jack Dempsey
5. Lennox Lewis
6. George Foreman
7. Joe Frazier
8. Jersey Joe Walcott
9. Mike Tyson
10. Larry Holmes

 

That is my take.

Let Louis and Ali flip a coin for the No1 slot, then try to work out who the hell is No3.

Sullivan, Jeffries, Johnson, Dempsey, Marciano, Foreman, Holmes, Tyson, Lewis are all plausible picks for the No3 slot IMHO.

The real question is "who is No3".

 

Ail
Louis
Holmes
Lewis
Frazier
Marciano
Foreman
Dempsey
Johnstone
Tyson

 

Do you really believe this?

 

1. Muhammed Ali

2. Joe Louis

3. Jack Johnson

4. Harry Wills

5. Larry Holmes




I'm kinda lost as to who should fit in from 6-10 but agree that you guys listed some very good choices above.

 

01 Louis
02 Ali

03 Holmes
04 Foreman
05 Lewis

06 Marciano
07 Frazier
08 Holyfield
09 Tyson

10 Johnson
11 Jeffries
12 Wlad

13 Dempsey
14 Liston

15 Schmeling
16 Walcott
17 Charles

18 Bowe
19 Vitali

20 Patterson
21 Wills

 

I don't think there is a clear cut #1. I say Ali because he beat the best completion. I also think the difference between #3 and say #7 is razor thin.

Here's a head to head list for today using 15 rounds.

Ali
Holmes
Lewis
Jeffries
Louis
Liston
V. Klitschko
Foreman
Dempsey
W. Klitschko

 

Jack Johnson for becoming the first blac man to win the title in an era when you couldnt fight for the title if you were black

#2 I'd like to say George Foreman but he lost to Ali so I'm going to say Jim Jeffries on account of his big wins

#3 you have to give it to Ali becuz he beat Foreman

#4 to Big Daddy Bowe based on sheer talent (he had it all) and becuz he was so bitchin and cuz he won the trilogy between himself and Holyfield

#5 Jack Dempsey, who savagery made him nearly the irrisistable force

# 6 George Foreman (on a good day he might whip them all)

#7 Larry Holmes

#8 Joe louis

#9 Lennox Lewis

#10 Mike Tyson

 

1 and 2 - Ali and Louis (interchangable but have to be #1 and #2)

3 + is take your pick.