The 0 has to go.

But what came 1st, the chicken or the egg? I think fans are writing guys off because that is the culture that is being marketed in boxing now. (If you lose, you can't be as good as that guy who hasn't lost).

Why should a loss be such a set back? If a guy is stepping up to a proven, more accomplished fighter, why should he be relegated to the scrap heap should he lose? If a guy steps up in weight or class, seeking out challenges and loses a fight, he shouldn't be derided for losing. He should be hailed for having the sack to do it.

It all comes down to projecting, and protecting, future earnings.

They all want the big paydays. Hopefully to hit the PPV lottery, and continue unbeaten. I can't blame the fighters. It's their health. It's their sacrifice. It's prizefighting. I just wish the guys could get paid and still have a system in place that allows them to compete freely, and without the hyperbolic tendencies of the public holding them back.

I'm not saying to just throw him to the wolves. But the guy wants to go from Birtha to fighting for a title. What the hell is that about? I can see if there is a progression in competition. No problem. You step up to better levels as you're ready to do so. But not stepping up simply to avoid getting a "1" in the loss column calls the legitimacy of any record into question.

 

A steady progession in opponents is not easy for a guy like Wilder. He's a huge puncher with little earning potential. Many of the mid level guys had no incentive to fight him. Somehow he's gotten a high ranking by the WBC and has gotten some attention from all the knockouts. I'm not sure if he's ready for a title shot. However, he's in line for one and I guess he's tired of his heart and desire being questioned.

 

Only Top 100 ATG fighters who are undefeated with no draws:

Rocky Marciano, Edwin Valero

That's 2%, so the statistics shows that Fighters with losses are better off in legacy

The 2 undefeated fighters Could have been the Goat, but we don't know cause Marciano didn't Defend his title as long As Joe Louis...and Edwin Valero life was cut short before we see him vs Pacman

 

Losing is not the end of the world - here in the UK, Carl Froch had two losses (Kessler & Ward) before become PPV material - the reason why Froch became a PPV fighter was because he would fight anyone anywhere rather than stay in Nottingham protect his O & the fans appreciated this!

Obviously, since the Groves fight and his subsequent interviews, it is fair to say that his stock has fallen!

 

True Burns could have fought better, but i believe he wanted the Vazquez fight, Granted he wanted none of Broner although was Broner that intrested in Burns to begin with. True a lot of his best oponents have been through being forced not choice, Gonzalez was his mando as is Crawford, Did they choose Beltran i don't remember? I do think we need to consider boxing politics as well i mean you are going to consider the money involved as well. Like i've said i don't think either Frampton or Quigg are ducking each other just boxing politics getting in the way.

 

It's WHEN the 0 goes.....Even Joe Louis' 0 had to go against a former champ in Max Schmeling and Joe was one of the greatest heavyweights of all time.....Muhammad Ali's 0 fell against Frazier and he had a magnificent career afterward.....

 

Edwin Valero??

 

That's the only undefeated 2 names in my Top 100 ATG list

You are a good example to support the point I was making, the 0 doesn't help your legacy :smoke

I feel Edwin Valero KTFO Pacman, abuses JMM & gets the honor of being ducked by Mayweather

 

I think the fighters themselves or promoters perpetuate the problem by going after soft touches after a loss aka comeback fights or confidence builders. Guys like Salido, Marquez, Provodnikov, Macklin don't take as much criticism for being knocked down or beaten because they always get back in there and put up a decent fight.

Miguel Cotto was on the verge of becoming a protected fighter but since Mayorga he began seeking out good competition again and the fans seem to have cut him some slack over his losses and just enjoy watching him perform. He is visibly upset when he loses but has managed to shake the ruined label which I think is important.

Amir Khan really needs to get back into the mix because after his loss to Garcia his image reeks of low confidence from being inactive and/or fighting a lightweight, maybe a sign of looking to cash out. After his loss to Peterson Khan didn't give off a defeated attitude, he wanted redemption and I think he needs to remember that the fans respected that.

A lot of fighters are one good win away from being back into the spotlight. Tim Bradley was roasted after the Pacquiao fight but a couple good wins and a war later has somehow turned Pacquiao into a legitimate win in most of the fans minds, he isn't simply known as the guy that got a gift and is a major player now/again.

 

That is because so many British fighters are domestic and when they step to the international level they lose.
Wilder and Brook are hypejobs and their handlers know it so they are very careful who they put in the ring with them!!!

 

While I don't think you can blame the guy and ask him not to accept a title shot right now, I believe he certainly could have done better than Birtha recently, and of course some of the other guys he has on his ledger in recent bouts.