In What weightclass do you rank Pacman highest ATG?

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  1. StGeorge

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    :yep
     
  2. eltirado

    eltirado Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Alot of people are voting for 140, cause the KO of Hatton was vicious :yep

    That alone possibly puts him ahead of Hatton at 140, especially that Pacman fought at legit weight coming from lower divisions which all qualify as 140 non title fights. The problem is Pacman lack of world title defenses in 140. In 140 the GOAT is Pryor or arguably Cervantes and Pacman can't change that...at this point of his career

    In 122, the GOAT is clearly Wilfredo Gomez.

    Morales, Mab & Pacman all have a case for #2 spot. Pacman ATG ranking here has 2 factors

    * The dominant undefeated reign 11 defenses,
    * The clear domination of both Eric Morales & Mab in the tail of their primes outside of 122
     
  3. progamer

    progamer Boxing Junkie banned

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    you have good points. i feel like pac is too good to be confined in 1 weight class.

    he was at a point in his career where the most challenging (higher weight class) was the one that will make the most money, so they went after the higher weight class.

    like i said, the pac that fought dela hoya and cotto was basically the same guy, only with more meals to make the weight. result is pretty much the same except the bigger guys can take his punches better.

    but technically, he had only 1 fight at 140 but his most dominant in maybe his whole carreer..
     
  4. Staminakills

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    wow this is one of the more moronic posts anyone has ever made, what makes you believe floyd is bigger than paq ? cause he is taller ? obviously you had yet AGAIN not done any homework you are just shitting out the mouth, like always..

    paq has consistently been heavier than floyd on fight night for many years.
    floyd has NEVER been over 150 ever on fight night where paq has been over 150 consistently.

    back in 2010 espn or some sports station put out all paqs and floyds measurements and paq was bigger in the majority of said measurements.
    both at 16 were 106, both in late 20's, early 30's coming in on fight night in 140's. difference is paq was draining to make 130 while floyd was fighting at 140 and 147.

    do your homework or STFU
     
  5. rayrobinson

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    I think the mix of speed & power is at 140.

    Lets be completely honest he beat Hatton who had never looked liked being beaten at 140 and beat him like he was a novice.

    Manny vs Pryor would have been great.
     
  6. rayrobinson

    rayrobinson Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Math is Math my friend.

    Floyd is taller with a longer reach, this makes him the bigger man, pretty simple. Also I would say Floyd is deeper in the shoulders.

    Also this rubbish about being heavier on fight night doenst make a fighter bigger , just heavier. I know fighters who dont eat on fight day due to being nervous and others that eat everything.
     
  7. christo

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    130 no doubt. Has wins over Barrera and Morales, plus a
    prime Marquez. All HOF'ers
     
  8. eltirado

    eltirado Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    How does your 130 ATG list look like :D

    So far

    122. #2 After Wilfredo Gomez
    140. #3 After Aaron Pryor & Cervantes
    130. How does your ATG list look like??
     
  9. eltirado

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    :boxer
     
  10. rodney

    rodney Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    He is NOT an ATG. He is just an ordinary fighter and if he gets knocked out one more time then you can call him and --- HASBEEN.
     
  11. Staminakills

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    paq was probably best at 130 cu he came into the ring as a WW
     
  12. Staminakills

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    being taller with a longer reach does NOT make one "bigger" it makes them longer.l

    size is truly measured by WEIGHT
    arm size
    wrist size
    waist
    chest
    shoulder
    thighs
    calfs
    ankles

    paq is larger in MOST of the areas. so NO floyd is NOT bigger, he is a little longer.
    what world would height and reach ever determine ones "size" obviously you never competed in anything beyond middle school, even high school athletes learn these BASICS

    you're welcome for the class
     
  13. progamer

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    youre an idiot.

    pac eats 5 times a day to campaign in his 7th div. whats stopping floyd to do the same to fight in his 6th?

    cowardice:hi:
     
  14. eltirado

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    Pacman was an ATG in every weight he fought, as he showed he is lethal in all classes.

    He is not the GOAT in any weightclass, Mayweather is the obvious GOAT in 130 as he was perfect there.

    Pacquiao lost at 130, so he was not at dominant as Mayweather in 130.

    122 is really the weight he fought most at and also never lost. 11 title defenses and powerpunching displays, He came in near 140 and always had amazing power/speed for the 122 guys
     
  15. progamer

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    lmao. the guy who started at 106 is the same size as the guy who started at 130.

    fight night is unofficial, aka pure guess. there is no representative from both sides during fight night weigh in, no official rep from sanctioning body, could be fully clothed or just plain hide it by refusing to be weighed ala floyd.

    in other words, pure guess.

    stop using unofficial data as basis for argument. it will only lead to unofficial result hence pure guess.

    werent you complaining when floyd is matched with hearns and leonard bec both started their careers way higher than floyd?

    so at ww, hearns and floyd are the same size right? right?