A truly disturbing read

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  1. DaveK

    DaveK Vicious & Malicious Full Member

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    A stroke can happen to just about any part or the brain. Someone's inability to walk after a stroke is the result of injury to the part of the brain reaponsible for any number of things- the cerebrum, which is the thought to move initially, the motor cortex, which is the motor planning area, or really any other part along the chain of command before it reaches the spinal cord to carry the signal to the muscle to be moved.

    The brain is like the phone itself; the spinal cord is like the phone line coming out of the wall.

    A stroke is like someone damaging the phone itself, so it doesn't function correctly. A spinal cord injury is like someone cutting the phone cord coming from the wall; either one prevents you from using the phone and getting your voice to someone on the other end.
     
  2. doug.ie

    doug.ie 'Classic Boxing Society' Full Member

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    right...gotcha......but could punches from a heavyweight boxer like cooney not cause damage to "any other part along the chain of command before it reaches the spinal cord" to give the effects that harold rice had ?
     
  3. DaveK

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    Remember that in brain and/or spinal cord injuries, everything is affected from the level of injury down. That means if I break my neck at say, C4 (4 vertebrae down from the skull), I would lose not only the ability to breathe on my own, because the nerves coming from C4 go to the diaphragm for breathing, but everything under that too, because I've interrupted the signal at that point in the spinal cord.

    I would lose everything- breathing, arms, legs, ability to regulate blood pressure, autonomic system, everything because no sensory signal coming from the areas lower to the injury are getting through to the brain and nothing is getting through from above the area of injury either from the brain to the area its trying to communicate with...

    I suppose, given that there were two broken ribs, the vertebrae could have been damaged, as the ribs are connected to the spine, but that's a stretch. I guess its physically possible, but not probable.

    Another guess is that Rice was knocked down and fell on his rear, giving him a compression fracture somewhere along his spine, but he'd have to have gone down really hard.
     
  4. DaveK

    DaveK Vicious & Malicious Full Member

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    If that did happen, it would be from the body shots, though. It could happen.
     
  5. fists of fury

    fists of fury Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Very interesting explanations there, Dave.
     
  6. withoutwire

    withoutwire Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Paralyzed below the waist is clearly an exaggeration/downright lie.
     
  7. DaveK

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    It is possible, as the effects can last from hours to a month... Scary not knowing if you're permanently paralyzed or not... Having no bowel or bladder or ***ual function? No thanks. Even for a day.

    It could conceivably happen, as it happens all the time, but it's hard to say if this was true here.
     
  8. DaveK

    DaveK Vicious & Malicious Full Member

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    And thanks, FoF.

    I find it very interesting as well.
     
  9. SILVER SKULL 66

    SILVER SKULL 66 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Not surprised Cooney had lethal power, he nearly killed Ken Norton, and Foreman said Cooney hit him harder than any other fighter he ever faced, that says a lot considering George has felt the heavy hands of Lyle,
    Frazier, Morrison and Ali...
    Cooney seems like a good guy outside the ring, but inside an *******, remember the Holmes fight when it finally sunk in that he wasn't gonna win he played the Goloata card and kept smashing Larry in the nuts..
     
  10. redrooster

    redrooster Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    yeah, dont believe everything u hear from SI. the writer had Norris-leonard a 120-116 fight and refused to cover the details of the fight while filling the article with fluff on Leonard's career with colorful and imaginitve exaggerations JLP would be proud of

    no reason for Gerry to rough up the hired help. There's a reason he was known as "gentleman Gerry"
     
  11. DaveK

    DaveK Vicious & Malicious Full Member

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    :lol: Are you Terry Norris? You're the biggest Norris apologist I've seen yet. (I like Norris, by the way).


    And no, there's never been any incidents of fighters roughing up sparring partners... That's preposterous!