Will Andriy Rudenko be yet another victim of a early stoppage against Dereck Chisora?

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  1. assasin

    assasin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    :huh who said i was supporting corruption? i hate corruption where ever it takes place.
     
  2. assasin

    assasin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Hatton vs Tszyu was legit. but this has been done a thousand times before.

    the only time something out of line happened in the Cleverly/Kovalev fight was when Kovalev hit Clev with 2 full bloodied shots when on the ground. the ref didn't even say anything to him. the rules state that a DQ should be forthcoming if this takes place.

    if you're talking about the ref supposedly taking Clev back to the corner, i suggest you get a brain.

    the ref was thinking of stopping the fight, but just as he was about to step in, the round ended. but the ref was already in the motion of stepping in so had a hold of Nathan. he then signaled to ringside and the time keeper that he wasn't stopping the fight. he then took two steps towards the corner of Clev and put him there.

    nothing dodgy happened.

    if the ref stepped in and grabbed Clev after the bell, then took him back to the corner, then you'd have a point. but the ref was going to stop the fight just as the bell sounded so that's why he had hold of Nathan.
     
  3. exittored

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    Agree with nearly all of this except Pala as i think that was a good stoppage as well, some Americans don't know the rules of boxing.

    Malik Scott was counted out in 'the act of rising'. A boxer has to be up before the count of 10 and show he is in a position and ready to continue by 10...NOT start rising at the count of 9 and upright by 10. A count is 10 seconds long, not 11 or 12. Boxers get way too long as it is after they get knocked down and when you factor in a ref dusting off their gloves and asking if they want to continue plus the other boxer being in a neutral corner it's more like 15-17 seconds by the time the boxer who scored the knockdown gets to land another blow.

    Gerber was in no fit position to defend himself, not sure what else you expect the ref to do except allow Chisora to kill him?

    Pala turned his back on the action which is a indication he no longer wanted to continue which gave the ref no other option but to end the fight, doesn't matter if Chisora hit him when he turned his back as a boxer must defend themselves at all times and Chisora was within his rights to hit Pala.
     
  4. David HEY!!!

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    The fact that you are having to explain away 3 in a row says enough. And this is just Chisora's last 3 and Chisora we are talking about. There are far too many countless other robberies to go through especially in recent times.

    You cannot blame any fighter for not wanting to go there while Hearn and you know who control the outcome far too often.
     
  5. exittored

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    I'm not explaining it away, it's just some of you are too dumb to understand that refs have different criteria and rules in countries outside of America.

    Yes there have been robberies like the Beltran vs Burns fight and a few others but the 3 Chisora fights were all fine in regards to the rules of boxing, not sure what part you're missing?
     
  6. David HEY!!!

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    :patsch
     
  7. Super Hans

    Super Hans The Super Oneā„¢ banned

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    I hope so!

    War Chisora and British stoppages!!!

    BTW, you lot do realise who complained about the early stoppage in Froch-Groves fight, the victim of the stoppage- Groves. Is also a Brit?
     
  8. conraddobler

    conraddobler Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    exactly. For example, in Britain if the British fighter is in an advantageous position the referee has the right to end the bout for any arbitrary reason that might occur to him on the spot. On the other hand, if the British fighter is in a but of trouble the referee has wide discretion in inventing any old reason to intervene on behalf of his countryman.

    It's quite simple, really. What is wrong with these yanks!? What's not to get?
     
  9. Farmboxer

    Farmboxer VIP Member Full Member

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    I have never seen Rudenko fight, but I'll bet he is not very good or Chisora would never have chosen him. The UK ref will be a criminal. If Chisora were to get hurt, Chisora's ref will carry him to his corner like the criminal ref did in the Kovalev/Cleverly fight...............
     
  10. DaveyboyEssexUK

    DaveyboyEssexUK Boxing Addict Full Member

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    ok the Ref in the Gerber fight was not British but Delboy was breaking Gerber down big time and Gerber did not complain and seemed more relieved than anything.

    Pala did himself no favours by turning his back and slumping over the corner of the ring like he was out on his feet, he himself fooled the ref, plus the ref was not British.

    As For Scott that was a pathetic stoppage, I had Malik a head but Delboy was getting to him and closing the scorecards down then caught him evening up the score.
     
  11. ArseBandit

    ArseBandit Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    You are the epitome of a Britard. Talk about tinted vision.

    Yes the ref was stepping in before the bell, your right. He was stepping in waving off the fight, and then changed his mind when the bell went ffs. Nothing fishy about that at all :patsch

    He isn't allowed to carry Cleverly back to the corner whether he was stepping in or not though.
     
  12. plank46

    plank46 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I fully expect a fourth straight british stoppage immediately after the first time rudenko nails him. then expect brittards to appear, making excuses until the cows come home.