Now the dust has settled, do you still believe Haye's injuries were genuine?

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  1. Maxsplit

    Maxsplit Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Now the dust has settled on the Fury vs Haye fight that never was. Twice.

    Do you still believe Haye's injuries that caused him to pull out twice (the first one just 5 days prior to the weigh in) were genuine?

    Simple question :D
     
  2. smithshaun

    smithshaun Well-Known Member Full Member

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    personally no is my gut feeling, I think he was having a bad training camp and it gave him second thoughts. The shoulder might of been genuine and maybe that's why he faked the cut because its a better excuse than the shoulder. I still don't know who he was sparring when he got the cut, only he knows I guess!!
     
  3. Mufc30

    Mufc30 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Yeh i think they were, Haye wouldnt back out of £5mil that easy.

    You can see the scar on his right shoulder and the way he is talking is one of a man who is accepting he is done.

    The eye cut-i just dont see him doing that on purpose, nor any of our top boxers to be honest
     
  4. antonio plaisir

    antonio plaisir the detonator Full Member

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    i think the hand injury was faked to get the fury fight, the next 2 genuine.
     
  5. Ryan the Lion

    Ryan the Lion King of the Jungle Full Member

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    He faked the injuries as usual. Haye had a **** camp and he knew Fury was firing on all cylinders.
     
  6. LeeJonesJnr

    LeeJonesJnr Active Member Full Member

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    Haye would need to be comatose to lose to Tyson Fury, a bad training camp wouldn't do it.
    From the videos and statements coming out at the time is sounded and looked like camp was going well.
    Injuries happen, I believe that whilst unfortunate, they were both legit.
    Lots of noise about why was he sparring only a week out but its not that unusual to spar up until a week before the fight and a cut is easy to pick up.
    Regards the shoulder I think pretty much everyone thinks it is genuine.
     
  7. exittored

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    Haye's a bit like the boy who cried wolf so when he is telling the truth no one ends up believing him.

    I think he faked an injury to pull out of the fight against Vitali Klitschko in order to fight Valuev. Considering Valuev was an easier opponent to win a World title against and the fact he wouldn't have been forced to sign the Klitschko 'slave contract' i don't blame him for that faked pullout.

    It's almost certain he faked an injury to pull out against Manuel Charr in order to get the Tyson Fury fight, again i don't blame him as he was going to be making 5 times as much versus Fury then he would have against Charr.

    His two injury pullouts of the Fury fights, a cut and shoulder injury were both legit in my opinion...just bad luck but genuine.
     
  8. rampant

    rampant Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Probably genuine, I question the timing of the shoulder operation, was it really needed that urgently or was it a good excuse to pull out.
     
  9. Mufc30

    Mufc30 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Considering it possibly has ended his career im guessing he couldnt leae it till after....otherwise he would have fought, taken the £5mil, blamed the possible loss on his shoulder and cashed out
     
  10. Dr. Moneymaker

    Dr. Moneymaker Interim Silver Champion Full Member

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    I never did believe they were
     
  11. Ryan the Lion

    Ryan the Lion King of the Jungle Full Member

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    Well if he was that interested in the money he would have still went ahead with the injury and pocketed the £5 million and as you said blamed the loss on the shoulder.

    The funny thing is right after the cut eye postponement there were rumors that he was going to retire in a couple of months and they turned out to be true. So what about the rumors he had a **** camp as well?

    For all we know he could have been double dealing with another opponent and apparently he was with Alexander Povetkin.

    There was too many incidents and I agree with what Peter Fury said incidents make compelling evidence.
     
  12. Robney

    Robney ᴻᴼ ᴸᴼᴻᴳᴲᴿ ᴲ۷ᴵᴸ Full Member

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    Of course the injury is real.

    Because Haye has a history of fake/halfassed injuries a lot of people call bull, but I don't think he's stupid enough to walk out of a ₤5M payday against a guy most people expect him to wreck (even a Haype sceptic as me).
    It probably would have been his easiest massive payday behind the Audley farce.
     
  13. Mufc30

    Mufc30 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Point is if the injury wasnt legit he would have fought but obviously the shoulder is fcked.

    **** camp or not he would have knocked Fury out and rumours fly about all the time. One is about retiring-the other is about Povetkin, completely opposite rumours to go around. The eye injury was clear, he has faked stuff in the past but not in relation to Fury, too big a payday, and no reason to fake them
     
  14. emallini

    emallini Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Why would he duck Tyson Fury?

    I thought he liked big pay days?

    People are stupid they don't understand how it works. He ducked the Charr fight for the Fury fight. He wanted the Fury fight. He saw it as easy pickings. People think he would fake an injury to duck Fury hahaha wtf
     
  15. Ryan the Lion

    Ryan the Lion King of the Jungle Full Member

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    I'm no buying! There is just too many incidents and there were a lot of respectable people in boxing who said that fight was never going ahead.

    I was a big Haye fan myself, but i never believed he would have fought Fury.