I don't think GGG could beat Froch or even Chavez Jr

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  1. flashy k.o

    flashy k.o Supporter of E.E fighters Full Member

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    I saw 3G vs Adama last night and he didn't impress me too much. Maybe Adama was an awkward-slick opponent and Genna wasn't able to hit him so much like he did against Rosado or Stevens or maybe 3G is on a down way due of the fact he's fighting low quality opposition.


    Froch, although is past of his prime is still a top SMW. He is bigger, far more proven at a high level, awkward, long reach, good chin and power, so I don't see 3G beating him.

    On the other hand, Jr rehydrates to 190+ lbs. He's not a skilled fighter but his bigger body could overwhelm 3G into a fight and I don't think Jr would be so hurt by 3G's shots.

    Probably Golovkin should keep fighting 154 known fighters like Kirkland, Angulo, Molina or Andrade and in this time chase a fight with Martinez - Cotto winner.

    I think this is the best way to do good businesses IMO. :good
     
  2. Scar

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    He has the tools and ability to beat both.
     
  3. flashy k.o

    flashy k.o Supporter of E.E fighters Full Member

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    The referee stoppage was too quick and too soon. He should've let Golovkin to finish Adama.
     
  4. Robney

    Robney ᴻᴼ ᴸᴼᴻᴳᴲᴿ ᴲ۷ᴵᴸ

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    Come on, Brian Vera beat Chavez jr and that guy lost to Bursak (have you seen him last night?!).
    Chavez got spanked for 11 rounds by an over the hill Maravilla before he caught him but still lost.

    Froch might have a decent chance, but JCC jr??? No chance in hell.
     
  5. lobk

    lobk Original ESB Member

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    Seriously WTF has Chaves JR done?
     
  6. flashy k.o

    flashy k.o Supporter of E.E fighters Full Member

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    :think

    Abraham was a killer too @ 160.

    I see some flaws in GGG's game - like he doesn't know how to fight on his backfoot which is very essential against bigger and physical stronger guys like Froch and Jr. Also his defense is a little weak - i.e he has the bad habit to drop his hands after he punches, plus he hesitates sometimes to throw a punch or a combination of punches.
     
  7. Spoorloos

    Spoorloos IfPacKOsTimImgone90days Full Member

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    JCCjr is a bad stylistic matchup for GGG imo.
    If he's in shape and keeps in GGGs face throughout the fight it could be a very long night for Golovkin.
    I still think he beats him though, but JCCjr has the potential to make him look very average.
     
  8. flashy k.o

    flashy k.o Supporter of E.E fighters Full Member

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    styles make fights. Vera was throwing punches in bunches vs Jr. He was very aggressive and busy which didn't let Jr to impose his size advantage like he did against Lee. Also Vera is a strong guy too.

    Seriously if the 3G vs Jr fight would happen, I think it would be @ 170 lbs, not even @ 168 lbs, so imagine what size advantage would have Jr in the fight night.
     
  9. flashy k.o

    flashy k.o Supporter of E.E fighters Full Member

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    Lara would be a nightmare for 3G IMO.

    On the other hand Kirkland, Angulo, Canelo and Cotto vs 3G would be fun to watch as long as the fights last.

    @ 154 there are better fights in terms of $$ and exposure for 3G.
     
  10. flashy k.o

    flashy k.o Supporter of E.E fighters Full Member

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    yeah probably G would win the fight but it would be his toughest fight from his entire career if Jr prepares well for the fight.
     
  11. weegriffin

    weegriffin Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I doubt they will move up to 160 lbs and GGG I think will only go down for big money fights.

    I think Lara vs GGG would be a great fight, two amatuer stars with good technical skills.
     
  12. Xelloss

    Xelloss Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    You joking? Ref was holding him up. The only question left at that point, was whether or not Adama was going to leave that ring a whole man.

    The whole fight honestly looked to me like a "live" sparring session, where GGG was putting stuff worked on in the gym into practice. Saw a few things I hadnt seen much from him before, was pretty interesting for that.

    Just saw the compubox numbers as well.. he held Adama to a 12% connect rate. Adama might not be a world beater, but he is a solid boxer who could box well against Ring#3 Geale. And he was held to 12% by a pressure fighter.
     
  13. Ctrl_Alt_Defeat

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    to me froch is number 1 p4p
    actually entertains the fight fans
    keeps his hands low like a boss
    never made the chicken dance
    comes back stronger from a loss
    made it his mission to fight the best in the division

    the intense training began When Carl Froch was just a young lad
    apart from the cycling and runs he began hardening his face by tapping his nose and chin
    with a small tea spoon , sometimes for half an hour and sometimes longer 1 or 2 hours straight, depending on what other chores he had to do that day.
    (He was always very determined in life to do great things)
    Along the years the tapping on the nose became harder and the tea spoon got replaced with a slightly bigger tea spoon
    , and then later into a regular spoon and then a big spoon ... by the time Carl Froch had aged into a man the spoon had become a frying pan
    ..the face had become indestructable! and he did not require many seconds to shrug of the effect of the numerous blows he absorbed in sparring

    one day as we all know he joined up with robert McCracken who saw the great potential in Carl
    and the rest is history... all hail Carl Froch the King of England and P4P number 1 :happy:happy:happy
     
  14. paddymickey

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    If they fought in a state where Chavez Jr was tested strictly pre and post fight VADA style than I think GGG wins. As for Froch, I think GGG takes early lead to win on points. The question is can Froch test GGG in a way that nobody has done before and the answer is probably yes. But once GGG feels the bigger mans power he will use his RING IQ to shut out a points victory.
     
  15. flashy k.o

    flashy k.o Supporter of E.E fighters Full Member

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    Cotto will fight Sergio at 160 and he's a free agent , Kirkland probably would go up at 158/160 to fight G if HBO offers him good money. Canelo vs 3G is a hard fight to be made cuz of SHO/HBO.