Ultimate Calzaghe Nuthugger Irony...

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  1. coronacards

    coronacards Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Calzaghe fans keep posting on this board how BHop's resume isn't "legendary" because Trinidad was above his PRIME weight, as was DLH, and Wright. Also, they claim that Tarver is overrated. Then, they claim BHop is overrated...

    However, they will not allow someone to say that BHop is past his prime and 43 (as well as 15 lbs. above his PRIME weight), therefore if Calzaghe wins, it won't mean much....

    See what I mean??? You can't have it both ways. If BHop's wins mean nothing, then if Calzaghe beats an "overrated" "above his prime weight" "past his prime" fighter, it also doesn't mean anything...
     
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  2. coronacards

    coronacards Well-Known Member Full Member

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    It is logical...
     
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  3. jc

    jc Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I think most Calzaghe fans will relaise that Joe will be a great fight this weekend, but the victory will be tainted what ever happens due to Hops age.

    When this argument is brought up, Calzaghe point out that is Hopkins' record is that of an ATG, then so is Calzaghe's, they have remarkably simlar records. Joes win this weekend will in fact sway it in Joe's favour.
     
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  4. coronacards

    coronacards Well-Known Member Full Member

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    How are their resumes so similar?

    BHop beat more HOFers, more P4P Top 10 Fighters, More Champions, won titles in 2 weight classes (jumped up 2 weight divisions at age 40 to beat the LHW champ), defended the Undisputed Middleweight title 7 times, etc...

    BIG DIFFERENCE between that and Calzaghe's resume.
     
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  5. coronacards

    coronacards Well-Known Member Full Member

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  6. K2ray

    K2ray Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Do you know the BIGGEST irony?...all these Hatton Huggers coming out of the woodwork and now nut hugging a guy who is equal in cockiness to PBF!
     
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  7. coronacards

    coronacards Well-Known Member Full Member

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    That's ironic...my irony is bigger haha
     
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  8. Rumsfeld

    Rumsfeld Moderator Staff Member

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    :rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl
     
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  9. coronacards

    coronacards Well-Known Member Full Member

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    BHop beat more HOFers, more P4P Top 10 Fighters, More Champions, won titles in 2 weight classes (jumped up 2 weight divisions at age 40 to beat the LHW champ), defended the Undisputed Middleweight title 7 times, etc...

    That says it all...
     
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  10. coronacards

    coronacards Well-Known Member Full Member

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    white boys can't fight
     
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  11. coronacards

    coronacards Well-Known Member Full Member

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    You mean when Calzaghe beats the past his prime, overrated, out of his weight class Hopkins???

    The win will mean nothing....just padding a name on his resume like Hopkins did with Trinidad...all bull****...RIGHT???

    Besides, Calzaghe is the betting favorite, he's supposed to win...

    You see, in boxing, as in life...RESUMES matter dip****.

    If Tyson retired at 20-0, who would care? He fought nobody by then...get it???

    Calzaghe has had the weakest competition of ANY so-called undisputed champion who has fought 44 times...it's just soft competition...
     
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  12. Nalian

    Nalian Formerly "yesihavearm" Full Member

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    Bhops wins over HOF's:

    Trinidad - WELTERWEIGHT
    DLH - WELTERWEIGHT
    WRIGHT - LMW FIGHTING AT LHW!!

    Bhops wins over top 10 p4p's - None.

    Hopkins has also lost to the 2 best fighters he's faced when u look at weight class (RJJ and Taylor TWICE)


    In comparison.

    Calzaghe was taking on live former world champions and contenders in people like Robin Reid, Charles Brewer, Byron Mitchell who were actuall REAL SMW's. Unlike Hop's best wins which were over WW's.


    Calzaghe would have beaten Trinidad-DLH worse than Hops did, it would an absolute joke. Calzaghe fighting someone like Reid at SMW was more dangerous than Hop's fighting DLH at MW etc etc

    So how is Hopkins resume better ? and on your logic if Calzaghe had fought and beaten lets say Mosley-Vargas-Cotto ? Would they have been good wins for him ?
     
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  13. jc

    jc Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Hopkins has more famous but small men on his record, that is really the only difference.

    In reality, both defended their title 20+ times, both fought some solid contenders, but both fought some gimmes, both didnt really get their ring respect and big money fights til late on in their title reigns, both unfied their divisions (Joe did it against a man his own size), Hopkins may have some more famous names on their like DLH and Winky, but DLh was never a middleweight and Winky was never a light heavy.

    Its easy to word certain accomplishments to make them sound better than they are, Hopkins in fact on SUCCESFULLY defended the linear title 6 times not 7, once agains faded Carl Daniels (old and light middle), second against PRIME Morrade Hakkar, thirdly faded Joppy, fourth was Robert Aleen (again), then against former super featherweight champ DLH, then lastly against howard eastman, before losing his title to Jermain Taylor.

    But this brings up the original point of the thread, its easy to rip a part records or in turn make someone sound better than they actually are, at the end of the the proof is in the pudding - Hopkins Vs Calzaghe 175lb title = Calzaghe comfortable UD.
     
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  14. Rumsfeld

    Rumsfeld Moderator Staff Member

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    False.

    Trinidad and Winky were both top 5 (if not 3) P4P when Hopkins embarassed them, and Tarver was top 10.

    Get your facts straight, bucko!

    :smoke
     
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  15. coronacards

    coronacards Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Funny, I recall Trinidad being a Middleweight titlist and a 4:1 favorite in the fight...Isn't that ironic...


    And CALZAGHE IS NOW FIGHTING AN OLD, BLOWN UP MIDDLEWEIGHT, WITH A PADDED RESUME...so how does beating Hopkins do anything for Calzaghe???

    See what I mean...you can't have it both ways here...

    Hopkins is 15 lbs. over his prime weight....he's 43...he's only beaten blown up welterweights BLAH BLAH BLAH...so what is Calzaghe gonna prove??? Furthermore, CALZAGHE IS THE FAVORITE...so I guess Calzaghe will prove nothing if he beats Hopkins, right?
     
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