Could Calzaghe have competed with non shot Jones at any point in their careers ?

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  1. FIN

    FIN Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Calzaghe loses on points to the 90s version of roy who was on the juice, roy without the juice gets outworked, calzaghe aint an easy night for anyone
     
  2. Imperial1

    Imperial1 VIP Member Full Member

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    Joe knew where Roy was but I think that's when his fear of flying took over
     
  3. HerolGee

    HerolGee Loyal Member banned Full Member

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    noit would not be an easy night for either bernop or roidones.

    Joe would keep getting up multiple times from knockdowns since he never stayed down, proven track record for getting up, and he'd push relentlessly for the full 12 rounds, despite being consistently way behind in accuracy and damage delivered.

    but the real truth is that joe wouldn't take the fights, not in a millions years. he didn't follow Bhop's wage requests up even after he had a golden chance to, and he admits himself that roy was too good for him.

    Calzaghes MOST FEASIBLE absolute best American opponents would lie somewhere between puppet champ Jeff Lacy and an injured one armed Antwun Echols, round about sub NABF champion level. He wouldn't go higher than that, because - if we are sticking to the facts - he never did.
     
  4. Colt Seevers

    Colt Seevers Member Full Member

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    Im not a Calzaghe fan but early in their careers before his hand issues Joe would have KO'd Roy Glass Jaw
     
  5. Imperial1

    Imperial1 VIP Member Full Member

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    :lol:
     
  6. Sugar 88

    Sugar 88 Woke Moralist-In-Chief

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    Some people would have you believe that Calzaghe was some lucky bum who stumbled through a career. These people are pathetic.

    He did opt for some pretty inexcusable defences. The pudwill one being the worst example but nearly all fighters have some awful defences on their records. RJJ being particularly reluctant over the course of his career.

    Also calzaghe wasn't a know steroid user unlike RJJ who quite frankly we'll never know how good he actually was and for me should have a big asterix next to his career as should toney.
     
  7. HEADBANGER

    HEADBANGER TEAM ELITE GENERAL Full Member

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    Its hard to imagine Jones beating Calzaghe at any point in his career. I think we only saw a clean Jones from after the Richard Hall fight onwards and if you look at his 3 fights before Jones fought Calzaghe and the 2 fights he fought after Calzaghe, Jones was basically still fighting at the same level he was during his bogus 175 run from after the failed steroid test in the Richard Hall fight.

    You look at the match up you just feel that Jones would always have trouble with that southpaw stance and the speed and intensity of Calzaghe's work :

    Calzaghe had adaptability, Jones had none
    Calzaghe produced his best when faced with adversity, Jones folded when faced with adverisity
    Calzaghe had a great chin, Jones didn't

    They are 3 really important factors in this match up. What people need to realise is that Calzaghe had infinitely superior boxing IQ to Roy Jones as demonstrated in their match up. Tarver and Johnson beat Jones because he had a glass jaw, where as Calzaghe hands were incredibly brittle which led to many boxing experts predicting that Jones would win the match-up, but what the experts didn't realise is that Calzaghe was the far superior boxer who could control the distance with superior foot movement, who would continually change the angle of his attack with superior timing.

    A match up with a juiced Jones would be a closer match-up, I think you are talking about a very close points decision in that match up due to Jones having enhanced power, speed, and stamina. If the fight took place in the states with Joe Cortez refereeing and with 3 american judges then its not beyond the realms of possiblity that a juiced Jones could eak out a decision.
     
  8. FilipMNE

    FilipMNE Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    This is the most pathetic myth here, former MW went to fight for HW belt reluctant:huh faced Hopkins, Toney, Hill etc if you compare his record to Joe and its not even close.
     
  9. Mind Reader

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    Greetings Banger, first I would like to say Congratulations on reaching 2,000,000 profile views.:happy

    But do you really think Calzaghe would beat the Jones from the Hall fight?:huh
     
  10. HEADBANGER

    HEADBANGER TEAM ELITE GENERAL Full Member

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    Mind Reader in da house :happy:happy:happy:happy:happy

    Thank you very much, being the first poster in esb history to shatter the 2 million profile barrier was a very proud moment, not just for me but for everybody at the highly respected Team Elite Corporation :patsch

    If you re-read my post you will see that I believe a juiced Jones - Calzaghe would be a very close decision with Jones possibly winning depending on the officials and fight location :deal
     
  11. LeeJonesJnr

    LeeJonesJnr Active Member Full Member

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    I like Joe a lot. He was an excellent boxer and it is a shame that he didn't fight more upper level fighters but he wouldn't ever have beaten the best of RJJ.
     
  12. Jordan_Davies

    Jordan_Davies Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    they shoulda fought after calz stopped mitchell
     
  13. HerolGee

    HerolGee Loyal Member banned Full Member

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    Mitchell is an appalling choice for an eliminator for a major world title/major elite opponent next.
     
  14. FilipMNE

    FilipMNE Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Funny thing is Joe fans actually think that Roy should have challenged him for WBO belt lol if you have **** belt you go for better not other way around:good
     
  15. anton

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    He has two chances slim and none