Does Roach see something we don't with Cotto vs Martinez? He did with Pac vs DLH

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  1. Auracle21

    Auracle21 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I recall that ESB was in a uproar when DLH vs Pac was signed in mid 2008. People kept saying that Pac had no shot regardless of what the weight was at or how old DLH was. Roach stated he saw something in the Forbes vs DLH fight that made him realize Pac could beat DLH convincingly. Do you think he has seen something with Martinez that he feels Cotto can exploit? And Yes I think Cotto will win this fight. What do you guys think
     
  2. iceman71

    iceman71 WBC SILVER Champion Full Member

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    he sees a pay check.
    5 foot 7 inch midgets dont win the middleweight title...sorry to break that news to you.
    well with exception of duran, but he was a legend, cotto isnt in his league or near it
     
  3. the commentator

    the commentator Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He sees $$$ signs...........
     
  4. Holy Grail

    Holy Grail Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Everyone was saying DLH would beat Pac (by KO even) and that it was a mismatch. Now after the fact, suddenly DLH was a cherrypick and people discredit this Pacquiao win. :patsch :yep
     
  5. Jacory Harris

    Jacory Harris I'm a gorilla I'm a dawg! Full Member

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    Since when is 5"7 a midget? Hell, Money is 5"7 and he could easily jump up and snatch the MW title from that overrated whiteboy GGG if he wanted to.
     
  6. iceman71

    iceman71 WBC SILVER Champion Full Member

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    i know you are trolling but i will play along......

    too bad he doesnt have the balls to try
     
  7. iceman71

    iceman71 WBC SILVER Champion Full Member

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    excatly
    people rewrite history on these boards daily
     
  8. dannyc1990

    dannyc1990 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    what he saw was in the contract it stated DLH had to drain down to 147, which ok he'd fought forbes at... but then he wasn't allowed to rehydrate. I mean cmon when manny outweighed him fight night you knew something was up... He knew oscar would be out of gas after a round or 2.
     
  9. Partaxian

    Partaxian Active Member Full Member

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    No such thing, made up stuff such as the made up email to try descredit the win. No copy of contract, no confirmation from Pac camp or Hoya camp. ODLH could dehydrate as much as he likes, he just messed up his weight control. I heard he made weight by mid-camp, so he probably settled to that weight and could not gain weight overnight after the weigh in. Also do you realise how ridiculous this statement is, as if to state Pac had any negotiating power over ODLH. ODLH was the superstar, prior to ODLH Pac's highest PPV was 350k against JMM, he had no control whatsoever and certainly wouldn't be able to dictate any terms.

    ODLH dictated all the terms, including the weight. People forget Pac had to jump 2 weight classes, whilst ODLH was settled at 147 already. ODLH wanted to fight at 147 because he planned a rematch with Floyd there, thats why his previous fight was Forbes at 150. Lol at Pac being able to tell ODLH not to dehydrate, aside from no proof, that's just ridiculous. Might as well claim Khan is getting a bigger purse than Mayweather in their upcoming bout.

    Also Roach said he saw something in ODLH in the Floyd fight, not Forbe fight, he said he knew ODLH couldn't pull the trigger anymore because he was in the corner for DLH vs Floyd.
     
  10. amunz81

    amunz81 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I dunno but I don't think its going to be as easy for Martinez as people think. I think roach is a huge help with cotto and will have a good game plan. I even give cotto a chance .
     
  11. Partaxian

    Partaxian Active Member Full Member

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    Also I think Cotto-Martinez will be a much closer fight than people expect. I never rated Martinez, I can't tell when his prime is...he never had one.

    Cotto could outbox him, if not he could get stopped.
     
  12. dannyc1990

    dannyc1990 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Haha, hey maybe your right.. but either way oscar not being able to rehydrate whether it was in the contract or not, won pacquiao the fight. I'm not saying oscar wud win in other circumstances, but on that night it won him the fight. As soon as i saw oscars weight on the night i knew pacquiao was going to win easy.

    & ofcourse they see weaknesses in srergio... he had a bad night vs murray and the 2nd knockdown should of counted... but lets not forget one fight before he looked very good v chavez. I give this a 50/50 that we see the old sergio.. injuries may have ruined him
     
  13. dannyc1990

    dannyc1990 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I don't think cotto can outbox sergio, no way. He has to press and work the body for me. Take segios legs away from him. You don't try outbox a guy like sergio unless your a mayweather.
     
  14. cslb

    cslb Puerto Rican Uppercut Full Member

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    Wasn't Qawi 5'7"? If I am not mistaken, I think he won light-heavyweight and cruiserweight titles.
     
  15. zato-one

    zato-one Pink Jumpsuit Boxing Full Member

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    The whole fight will come down to body work by cotto. Plain and simple. If you watched cottos last fight, you would have noticed that freddy has cotto going hard to the body again...and it paid off....against a can, none the less, but it paid off.
    If cotto cuts down the ring and can land to the body, it will be a long or short night for sergio.
    If sergio can confuse cotto, and nullify the body attack cotto is done for.