Irish Boxing

good :good

 

Great performance by Luke, hope to see him out again soon.:deal

 

Phil Sutcliffe signed with pat Magee ,wat does this mean for his career ?

 

A good night last night at the stadium. Cheers Luke for sorting us out with the tickets. And a good preformance on the night. Yes Andy Lee was sitting not too far away from us took a lot of time to sign and take photos with fans a top top man is Andy as did most of the fighters if stopped by the kids.

 

Pat Magee has a lot of international connection, has made himself and Brian Magee a lot of money. Also he has the sort of resources that can promote Sutcliffe in Dublin. Lets face if a man can get you to the top, its Pat Magee.

 

:thumbsup

 

That's great , that's wat I was hoping to hear!

 

Does anyone agree that if Steve Collins jr is to go anywhere in boxing, he needs to move down in weight. Hes carrying way to much muscle, and he always going to be to small as a cruiserweight:think

 

Any word of Andy v GGG or are we looking at Andy v HNN

 

was thinking the same

 

Me too.

 

Yeah he's muscle bound and i think he could at least make light-heavyweight. The draw was a fair result though as i had Collins Jnr winning the first two rounds, but he seemed to hurt his right hand or shoulder in the start of the 3rd and he never really used the right hand until the end of the last round, but i had Gifford winning the last two for a draw.
Steve Jnr showed he is tough though and dug deep in those last two rounds.

 

Shite, was that fight on the Copper Box card? I missed it cause apparently UPC dont get Boxnation.

 

Aye, it was on the copper box bill.

 

Collins Jr. actually made a clean 40-36 sweep, IMO.

4th and 3rd were sloppier, better for Gifford (and worse for Collins) than 1st and 2nd, but not enough so to say that Gifford especially deserved them. All he really did was catch Jr. with a few no-big-deal uppercuts as he was diving in and those still didn't outnumber Collins' jabs and body shots in those latter frames.

Robert Williams scoring that a draw probably fell under that illusion where any perceived improvement one way and decrease the other automatically means you shift the rounds for the improver whether or not they've actually closed the gap. So the draw was a bit silly and Collins should be flawless at 4-0-0. He didn't look great, though, and yeah - probably suffered a bit of the old Iron Lug Syndrome. (think Shannon Briggs & Frank Bruno)

As we so often see, that jacked physique didn't translate into very useful conditioning...or power, given that he is yet to register even one knockdown even after four tries with training-wheels opposition combining for only 10 wins against 34 losses and 4 draws.

As we also often see, the apple has fallen far from the tree.

That isn't to say there is nothing to like. He goes dutifully hard to the body, put in some proper effort and didn't fold mentally when things got rough as he gassed from the first six minutes' worth of work and Gifford began to find a home for the uppercut.

I'd say a drop to 175lbs would be well-advised indeed. Mobility, speed, conditioning, power, size relative to his opponents (Gifford himself at roughly 6'1" is no giant at cruiser, and towered over the ginger pit bull whom I'd place around 5'10" being openhanded) - really I can't think of what it wouldn't be likely to improve for him. :think