Loma needs a new team.

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  1. jas

    jas ★ Legends: B-HOP ; PAC ★ Full Member

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    - he came in much heavier vs siri than in his first pro fight. suggests he wasn't in as good a shape. Perhaps that's why his workrate was so low , and he only started to come on strong in last couple rounds. Wrong tactics against a guy who starts slow.

    - i cant believe that , before the fight, his team didnt go over the scenario that he may need to foul back. salido even said before the fight he is gonna fight dirty.

    - siri was open for the uppercut all night long like a deer's eyes in the path of an oncoming train.

    - loma wasnt even countering when siri was throwing all that wild **** to the body and the head. marquez did when he fought siri and that limited salidos punch output.

    From the RBR mid-way through the fight:

     
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  2. jas

    jas ★ Legends: B-HOP ; PAC ★ Full Member

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    the guy has talent, just needs another trainer other than his father, much like broner needs another trainer other than mike stafford
     
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  3. Cafe

    Cafe Sitzpinkler Full Member

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    Yeah, someone like Freddy would improve him massively. However, I am not sure if he's going to do that.
     
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  4. SweetSciGuru

    SweetSciGuru Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Is he also managed by his father.
    Whoever made this fight should be fired. It was a very bad business decision.
     
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  5. Cafe

    Cafe Sitzpinkler Full Member

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    No, Egis Klimas, the same guy who manages Kovalev I believe.
     
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  6. Eastcoast

    Eastcoast Boxing Addict Full Member

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    But he's High Tech!

    I remember when Eric Lucas was the WBC SMW champ and he had all these trainers on his team for S&C, Diet, Psych. They were at a press conference for the Vinny Pazienza fight talking about it. A reporter turned asked Vinny if he had any special trainers on his team, to which Vinny shrugged his shoulders and said he's seeing a s*x therapist.
     
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  7. jas

    jas ★ Legends: B-HOP ; PAC ★ Full Member

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    lol yea, its probably good to be "high tech" when it comes to conditioning but boxing strategy doesn't change as much. Look at Lewis' jab or Morales' for that matter. The default starting point of his left hand is a few inches from their chin, allowing them to reach the target point quicker. That's what a lot of fighters used to do.
     
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  8. Rock0052

    Rock0052 Loyal Member Full Member

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    No need to reinvent the wheel. Let's see how he bounces back and adjusts- he didn't get to be where he is by being rigid and inflexible in his approach.
     
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  9. boxinganalysis

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    The uppercuts were the big thing. Mikey Garcia got a knockdown using an uppercut when Salido was bending over / lunging. Thought Loma would do the same: proboxinganalysis.blogspot.com.au/2014/02/vasyl-lomachenko-vs-orlando-salido
    Also got a broken nose from the leading with the head / headbutts that Salido gets away with: proboxinganalysis.blogspot.com.au/2014/03/robbery-in-texas
     
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  10. jas

    jas ★ Legends: B-HOP ; PAC ★ Full Member

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    and how the fk did loma's team not request a re-hydration limit
     
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  11. SweetSciGuru

    SweetSciGuru Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Needs a new manager also.
    The fact that he was matched up with Saildo in his 2nd Pro fight is, weird.
    Very poor management decision exposing him so early to so much risk.
     
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  12. jas

    jas ★ Legends: B-HOP ; PAC ★ Full Member

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    people think it was arum pushing him but its the other way around. top rank didnt want loma to fight salido but loma insisted.
     
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  13. SweetSciGuru

    SweetSciGuru Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    If that's true, then Loma has a serious problem!
     
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  14. Rock0052

    Rock0052 Loyal Member Full Member

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    +1. That whole "let me test myself" philosophy really has no place in modern boxing.
     
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  15. R6_Ninja

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    pls go
     
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