Joe Louis vs Jack Johnson

I usually pick Joe Louis in matchups, but I'll pick Johnson on this one for fun.
Jack Johnson is underrated simply because of who he is.
I think he could possibly knock Joe Louis out.

If Max Schmeling could do it, then Jack could definitely do it.

The Fight:
Jack uses his arrogance to get into Joe Louis' head, mauling him, slipping in uppercuts to the head and body to slow him down. Final round, Jack Johnson is chuckling at the crowd while he finishes off Joe Louis with a quick straight right to the face.

 

I always liked Johnson in this match up .. I just think he had a gear that would throw Joe off , confuse him and allow him to out punch and out box him .

 

I don't think Johnson's defensive style, geared primarily to guys who threw one shot a time and many who were wide swingers if not outright bar room brawlers, would be as effective against the greatest and most efficient combo puncher the division ever witnessed. Louis W15.

 

Nonsense.

Giving Joe a pep talk as opposed to his true feelings.

Distinguish between the two.

 

I `d lean toward Jack Johnson being the better defensive fighter and as Jack Blackburn put it "a moving target" as opposed to Louis being a stationary target.

Could never discount Joe Louis`s chances though he had that great equalizer.

Johnson by late stoppage.

 

"Jack Johnson? Yeah. I think he could have took Johnson," said Mr Blackburn thoughtfully. "He would feed Johnson with the left and then, when Johnson moved in, he would belt him with a right. He was a mighty smart man, Johnson, but I think Joe would of been too tough for him. That Joe is one of the greatest fighters you ever see. He could lick Johnson, tha's how good he is. Some boy. He could even lick Johnson."

 

Out of the park and bases cleared.

:good

 

"Don't ever tell Chappie I said this but Jack Johnson woudda whooped the earlocks offa that boy"

 

Can't throw those "greatest most efficient" combos if Jack neutralizes them with counterpunch straights to the head and body. Jack Johnson had experience fighting in battle royales.... just sayin'

 

Battle Royale experience is the farthest thing away from what Louis would present.

Please to tell me the combo puncher Johnson faced analogous to Louis? Please to tell me if the advent of such combo punching was or was not an evolution in the division? And with this in mind, were the defensive tools of Johnson's era sufficient to thwart a puncher like Louis?

 

It would behoove Louis to finish Johnson sometime inside of 10-12 rounds. You don't want Jack lingering around all day.

 

Johnson fought Sam Langford, who was on that level.
Combo punching was around in Johnson's time.
Johnson was clever, and I think he could thwart a puncher like Louis.

Louis was outboxed by middleweight Billy Conn.
Jersey Joe Journeyman was also giving Louis a boxing lesson.

I think Johnson would torture Louis with his defense then wait until the final round to put a beating on the Brown Bomber. If Max Schmeling could catch Louis on an "off-night", so could Johnson.

 

We could do the "selective comparison" route all day. Johnson was KO'd by a middleweight, Johnson was outfoxed by a very old, 100 fights in light heavy, Johnson was outworked by a hayseed, diaper wearing hillbilly, Johnson was outlasted by a novice boxer, farmhand... but that's a bit disingenuous.

Somehow, elite combo punching in the heavyweight division was not recorded on film. Langford usually sets up single hooks or right hands and sometimes flails away with both hands, rather wide open... nothing like Louis' compact, efficient combos. And furthermore, Langford was a small middleweight when he fought Johnson... not a 200 pound, 6 foot 1, athlete... There is a difference here.

 

Johnson only ever beat tug boat captins and gandy dancers.

The sport had not yet evolved fully and smooth , technical boxers like Louis and Robinson did not exist in Johnson's day.

Johnson gets a boxing lesson.

 

Johnson looked to barely try and still totally dominated and beat people EASILY. I mean really... Johnson had power and Louis could be dropped and was dropped a lot. When Johnson had somebody hurt he was like like a cat with a mouse.. he'd be all over Louis.. mauling him in the process. I just think Johnson would find a way to win this fight and take Louis out of his comfort zone.. Might not be easy and it would take some adjustments for both.. but Johnson adjusts first.