Did Marvis Frazier have a chance?

He was a beautiful boxer, very smooth and classy against poor opponents, but too small and light, lacked a punch for a heavyweight too.
Didnt have his fathers chin either.
So he probably couldnt have got to the top either way.

 

Yes, just not as a heavyweight.

 

He did well heavyweight contenders like Smith, Bugner and Quick Tillis, but was relatively small for a heavyweight, lacked pop to keep elite fighters away from him, and was hampered by his father's insistence on turning him into a pressure fighter.

Had he gone down in weight to cruiser and been allowed to use a more favorable style, he could easily have won a belt (think Orlin Norris).

 

There are highlight clips of several of Marvis's other fights on his website (meetmarvisfrazier.com), which really show his skills as a boxer. Remember, Marvis was 56 & 2 as an amateur and 19 & 2 (you know the "2" I'm talkin' about) as a professional and many of the guys he beat went on to hold titles (Witherspoon, Tubbs, Smith, Benton) of one sort or another. His new book, "Meet Marvis Frazier", also details most of his fights. Thanks

 

With a gun maybe....:gun

 

When did Marvis beat Witherspoon and Tubbs? :think

Or do you mean he beat them as amateurs?

 

In response to Redman: yes, Marvis Frazier defeated both Witherspoon and Tubbs as an amateur. He defeated Smith as an amateur and a professional. The entire Tubbs fight can be seen on his website - very good fight and very entertaining. Also, when I say that his new book details most of his fights, I mean most of his professional fights. Thank you

 

To beat Tyson? not a snowball's chance in hell

to pick a paper belt with careful matchmaking? probably


It's kinda sad how, historically, all the sons of boxing legends never live up to expectations and never achieve anything close to what their father's did

Chavez Jr might be the most succesful one in that dept, that says it all

 

Not with that glass jaw, he didn't. :-(

 

Good boxer Marvis. But Tyson was an animal and not surprisingly, just ate him.

 

Why do you say that Marvis Frazier had a glass jaw - because one of the most devastating punchers of all time knocked him out with one of the most devastating upper cuts of all time? Did Larry Holmes, Tony Tubbs, Michael Spinks, etc. all have glass jaws? That was the only time in 79 career fights (amateur and professional) that Marvis Frazier was knocked unconscious. It that the record of a fighter with a glass jaw? Thank you

 

Zakman is probably referring to the KO1 by Holmes as well

 

Three more seconds in the Holmes fight and it would have gone to round two. That loss was a TKO. If anything, the results in the Holmes fight are evidence that Marvis Frazier did NOT have a glass jaw. He was still standing, still fully conscious, still defending himself when Mills Lane called the fight at 2:57; this despite having taken the initial hard right that put him on the canvas and several hard hits once Holmes trapped him in the corner. Marvis Frazier didn't have his father's punching power, but he definitely had the Frazier heart in the ring (the kind of heart that drove him to win his pro fight with "Bonecrusher" Smith fight after Smith "broke" his jaw in the 5th round). Thank you

 

Holmes put him down with the first flush shot he landed. And it was a hard knockdown - wasn't one of those flash or trip type deals. I would also argue that Holmes was taking it easy on him the last 10 seconds or so, signaling for Mills Lane to step in and being more measured with his punches than he would have been if he were dead set on putting Frazier on the canvas.

IMO there's no shame in your only two losses being to the two dominant heavyweights of the 1980s, but anyone whose losses were first round demolitions probably has some questions due about their chin.