Is Bernard Hopkins; Last Of The Real Prizefighter Breed??

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  1. SweetSciGuru

    SweetSciGuru Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Everybody is always whining about who isn't fighting who and this or that bout not being made in today's boxing climate.

    Meanwhile, the last of the old school breed of boxer has been holding up the tradition and facing tough and competitive competion and amazingly, getting less than adequate props.

    At 49 years old, Master boxer Bernard Hopkins is about to break his own record for being the oldest person to win a championship title by facing hard punching Beibut Shumenov for the WBA/IBF Super LHW titles.
    So, what response does Hopkins receive for this amazing challenge from so-called boxing fans?
    Oh, Shumenov is the weakest link, or
    Oh, He should have been fighting Stevenson, or
    Oh, He's afraid of to fight Kovalev
    :patsch

    In his last 6 fights since 2011. Over the last 3 years, Bernard Hopkins has taken tough fights each and every match.
    From his mandatory with Karo Murat, who was 25-1 at the time and 18 years younger that Hopkins to 24-0 Tavoris Cloud who many said was too young, too strong and punched too hard for Hopkins to defeat.
    Prior to that Hopkins had back to bck matches with 16 years younger 31-0 Bad Chad Dawson before Hopkins lost a narrow decision to the younger fighter.
    Let's not forget that preceeding Dawson, Hopkins had just come off of back to back bouts with 15 years younger 26-1 Jean Pascal.

    Say what you will about Bernard Hopkins, but what you can't say is that Hopkins is not a true warrior.

    The truly amazing thing is, he is not through yet. After his bout with Shumenov, win or lose, he will still likely try to take on one of the other new young guns, either Kovalev or Stevenson.

    Love him or hate him, you gotta respect him.
    Bernard Hopkins is a dying breed of prize fighter.
    Like it or not, Bernard Hopkins lives, breaths, and has always been a true prize fighting champion. He's been a champion for most of his pro career, and very likely, he'll retire as a ATG/HOF champion. One of the very best in Professional Middleweight history. :yep
     
  2. SweetSciGuru

    SweetSciGuru Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Like it or not, Murat was his mandatory, winning the spot by defeating Campillo in Germany.
    Granted, Murat was his weakest opponent of the last 6 years.
    I think Hopkins had planned to make the best of the fight by winning by KO.
     
  3. aussie opinion

    aussie opinion Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Even if calzaghe fought Hopkins he wouldn't of been able to Ko him...IMO Hopkins is prob the last of a generation, he has achieved a lot and a worthy HOF and his name will be mentioned more often than joe's long after he retires
     
  4. Badbot

    Badbot You can just do things.

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    Hopkins was the under dog against

    Tavoris Cloud

    Chad Dawson (x2)

    Jean Pascal (x2)

    Kelly Pavlik

    Joe Calzaghe

    Antonia (pun intended) Tarver


    So Hopkins is 8-2-1 And former two time lineal Light heavyweight champion. He accomplished all that after turning 40, meaning he is well beyond his prime and he is still going at it.

    :lol: You all better shut yer drawers because they seem to be empty anyways.
     
  5. Badbot

    Badbot You can just do things.

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    What about Hopkins vs Pascal? Those were two brilliant fights. Or how about Pavlik, Tarver or Murat?

    You are being bias.
     
  6. iceman71

    iceman71 WBC SILVER Champion Full Member

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    calzaghe will be known for beating an ancient hopkins who was in his 40's as well as someone that defended a garbage WBO title for years while the real champions had the other titles. so stfu you delusional muppet :hi:
     
  7. HeavyweightCP

    HeavyweightCP Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Most people dont know **** about Boxing :patsch
     
  8. MVC!

    MVC! The Best Ever Full Member

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    Shut the **** up. :good:hi:
     
  9. ValentinePrince

    ValentinePrince Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Some of posts in this thread are ridiculous. Yes, Hopkins has losses. The dude is f'ing 49.

    The fact that Hopkins is still able to go the distance with these guys — let alone actually beat some of them — is nothing but a testament to his greatest.

    Name me another fighter who in a 25 year career has never been stopped.

    The loss to Calzaghe actually does more good to legacy than to Calzaghe's. He was freaking forty-three, and was able to force a split decision against an unbeaten, championship level, p4p ranked 36 year old.
     
  10. SweetSciGuru

    SweetSciGuru Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Please understand. This is a guy who thinks that boxing would be better off with Dana White calling the shots. :yep:rofl:rofl
     
  11. SweetSciGuru

    SweetSciGuru Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Thanks for the suggestion....but, NO!

    Now go change you Kotex. :thumbsup
     
  12. box4life11

    box4life11 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Bernard lost to Dawson and bad end of story.



    Sergey would destroy his fragile ass
     
  13. SweetSciGuru

    SweetSciGuru Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Dawson and Kovalev are two completely different fighters.

    You lost all credibility when you labelled BHOP, one of the most durable fighters in the sport as fragile.

    Stop crying. The world probably won't end next week. You have time to see Ward wipe up on your champ. :good
     
  14. ValentinePrince

    ValentinePrince Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Please name me a 47 year old light heavyweight who would go the distance with a 29 year old Dawson. Thanks.
     
  15. cuchulain

    cuchulain Loyal Member Full Member

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    If Bernard had retired after losing to Calzaghe, I would have ranked Joe ahead of him (slightly) in the alltime rankings.

    However, since then, Joe has only added a very faded RJJ to his resume while Bernard has set several new records and is still going.

    So Bernard has to be ranked well ahead of Joe.

    And while both Stevenson and Kovalev would probably stop Bernard at this stage of his career, neither man will ever likely come close to his alltime standing.

    So yes, he is probably the last of a breed and must be respected by anybody with a sense of boxing history or what it takes to get where Bernard has got.