Heavyweight Top 30, early April 2014

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  1. ludwig

    ludwig Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Note I do not rank Haye, V. Klitschko, Helenius, Chambers, or Dimitrenko (among others) due to inactivity.

    1. Klitschko
    2. Pulev
    3. Povetkin
    4. Fury
    5. Thompson
    6. Stiverne
    7. Chisora
    8. Glazkov
    9. Cunningham
    10. Adamek
    11. Arreola
    12. Wilder
    13. Solis
    14. Perez
    15. Takam
    16. Mansour
    17. Jennings
    18. Leapai
    19. Chagaev
    20. Ustinov
    21. Teper
    22. Price
    23. Ortiz
    24. Browne
    25. Scott
    26. Mitchell
    27. Ruiz Jr.
    28. Charr
    29. Tarver
    30. Hammer

    Please post comments, criticism, or your own list!
     
  2. FrancescoD

    FrancescoD Active Member Full Member

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    Overall thats a pretty good list.
     
  3. Stallion

    Stallion Son of Rome Full Member

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    It's strange that the Ring Magazine has Odlanier Solis in top 10, then Thompson defeats Solis, and then Ring throws Solis out of top 10 and put Jennings in instead of Thompson. Also, Robert Helenius ranked #5 despite his inactivity is questionable as well.

    Anyway, here's the top 20 current list in my opinion.

    Champion: Wladimir Klitschko

    #01: Kubrat Pulev
    #02: Alexander Povetkin
    #03: Tyson Fury
    #04: Bermane Stiverne
    #05: Vyacheslav Glazkov
    #06: Tony Thompson
    #07: Tomasz Adamek
    #08: Derreck Chisora
    #09: Chris Arreola
    #10: Deontay Wilder
    #11: Odlanier Solis
    #12: Mike Perez
    #13: Bryant Jennings
    #14: Luis Ortiz
    #15: Ruslan Chagaev
    #16: Alex Leapai
    #17: Manuel Charr
    #18: Francesco Pianeta
    #19: Carlos Takam
    #20: Steve Cunningham
     
  4. chitownfightfan

    chitownfightfan Loyal Member Full Member

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    1.Wlad
    2.Pulev
    3.Fury
    4.Potvetkin
    5.Helenius
    6.Stiverne
    7.Takam
    8.Perez
    9.Glaskov
    10.Charr
    11.Arreola
    12.Pianeta
    13.Chisora
    14.Ruiz Jr
    15.Thompson
    16.Wach
    17.Leapei
    18.Jennings
    19.Adamek
    20.Cunningham
    21.Chambers
    22.Solis
    23.Peter
    24.Hammer
    25.Gjerjaj
    26.Wilder
    27.Ustinov
    28.Teper
    29.Browne
    30. Chagaev

    Sadly, Solis could be sooooo much higher. IDK if it's his relationship with Oner or the fact that he made $$$ so early into his career.

    I think Takam is underrated, as is Gjerjaj.

    Sam Peter will win the HW S8 tournament in June and beat 3 top 100 HWs en route. That will put him firmly back into the top 30. Hell, even if he loses in the final due to trouble with the format, he's still a top 30 HW.

    Glaskov mustve been extremely rusty vs Scott. Or Scott performed far above his likely ability.
    Scott was not bouncing around in that fight, but was planting and throwing. Vs Wilder and Chisora, he was all over the place before he got caught. Glaskov would KO either Wilder, Scott, or DelBoy if he's ever given the opportunity. He has looked great in his last 2 fights.

    Chambers will likely climb that list back into the top 10 if he can become active again. 2-3 more tuneups this yr and a fight with a HW top 20 will prove he's still elite at HW. And Team Fury has him finally looking like a genuine HW. :think
     
  5. chitownfightfan

    chitownfightfan Loyal Member Full Member

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    And Helenius looks to have toned up some......he's hitting the bag with authority and seems to have straightened his promotional issues out.
    A tuneup or two and he'll be fighting the top 30s once again until he wins his WBC or WBA minor title.:good
     
  6. jokers

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    5.Thompson-nice choice:))
    9.Cunningham-bad choice:(((...i cant see Cunningham even in top 20 in HWD
    22.Price too low ranked,hi deserve to be in top 15
     
  7. Aint no stoppin

    Aint no stoppin Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Spot on! good ranking
     
  8. UnleashtheFURY

    UnleashtheFURY D'oh!

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    Tarver not belong on that list....

    #1 Wlad
    #2 Povetkin
    #3 Pulev
    #4 Fury
    #5 Chisora
    #6 Glazkov
    #7 Stiverne
    #8 Thompson
    #9 Adamek
    #10 Cunningham
    #11 Arreola
    #12 Jennings
    #13 Perez
    #14 Charr
    #15 Takam
    #16 Chagaev
    #17 Hammer
    #18 Ruiz Jr
    #19 Ustinov
    #20 Browne
    #21 Solis
    #22 Wilder
    #23 Price
    #24 Teper
    #25 Pianeta
    #26 Leapai
    #27 Gjergjaj
    #28 Mansour
    #29 Duhaupas
    #30 Szpilka

    Due to inactivity the following are not ranked Wach, Helenius, Banks, and Chambers who just returned to heavyweight will likely make a return to the top 20 with a solid win in the coming months.

    I also didn't rank Wilder as high as many due to his very poor resume and the controversial nature of his last 'win' over Scott.
     
  9. ludwig

    ludwig Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Gjerjaj is new to me. Thanks for bringing him to my attention.

    I would probably take Perez, Takam, or Solis to beat Adamek, Glazkov, Cunningham, Arreola etc in an actual boxing match. But my ranking is based on achievement, not h2h.

    Right now Glazkov is simply not that good, but he's young and will get better. The main problem is he's not big enough to be a heavyweight champ, but seems a little too big for cruiserweight.

    I also notice many of you don't rate Mansour, but (despite his obvious flaws) I was pretty impressed with his performance vrs. Cunningham. With a different ref, he might have won by KO.
     
  10. ludwig

    ludwig Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I'm giving USS some respect given that he should have won vrs Adamek. He boxed well vrs. Fury and was the victim of questionable tactics. He has solid wins over Gavern and Quezada. Not to mention his history as a champ as cruiserweight. The fight vrs. Mansour was not his best but lets face it, he's at least as deserving of a high ranking as Adamek and Arreola are.

    Price? Well he'll likely get a bump if he performs well vrs Pala. We'll see--Pala is not a bum.
     
  11. andrewa1

    andrewa1 Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    I'm not counting Haye because of inactivity and statements that he may be retired. I'm counting Helenius, Chagaev, and Dimitrenko despite inactivity and or failure to beat any top 50 HW in years, but their rankings suffer until or unless they show they belong again. Perez, Jennings, and Takam are rated slightly too high by people, they haven't beaten any top 30 guys yet. I'll probably put the winner of Perez Jennings into my top 10 once it happens, though.
    1. Wlad
    2. Pulev
    3. Fury
    4. Stiverne
    5. Arreola
    6. Povetkin
    7. Chisora
    8. Glaskov
    9. Wilder
    10. Thompson
    11. Adamek
    12. Solis
    13 Helenius
    14. Chagaev
    15 Cunningham
    16 Jennings
    17 Takam
    18 Perez
    19 Wach
    20 Scott
    21 Charr
    22 Ustinov
    23 Hammer
    24 Pianeta
    25 Johnson
    26 Mitchell
    27 Banks
    28 Price
    29 Leapai
    30 Dimitrenko
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  12. Matt in a hat

    Matt in a hat Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Waiting for eltirado's list!:bbb
     
  13. FrancescoD

    FrancescoD Active Member Full Member

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    top 50 according to the independent world boxing rankings
    1- WLADIMIR KLITSCHKO
    2- ALEXANDER POVETKIN
    3- KUBRAT PULEV
    4- VYACHESLAV GLAZKOV
    5- TYSON FURY
    6- TOMASZ ADAMEK
    7- ANTHONY THOMPSON
    8- DERECK CHISORA
    9- DEONTAY WILDER
    10 BERMANE STIVERNE
    11 CHRIS ARREOLA
    12 SETH MITCHELL
    13 BRYANT JENNINGS
    14 JOHNATHON BANKS
    15 STEVE CUNNINGHAM
    16 FRANCESCO PIANETA
    17 MANUEL CHARR
    18 CARLOS TAKAM
    19 ODLANIER SOLIS FONTE
    20 MIKE PEREZ
    21 CHRISTIAN HAMMER
    22 ANDY RUIZ jnr
    23 ERKHAM TEPPER
    24 ALEX USTINOV
    25 ARTUR SZPILKA
    26 MALIK SCOTT
    27 MICHEAL SPROTT
    28 DAVID PRICE
    29 KEVIN JOHNSON
    30 ALEX LEAPAI
    31 TOR HAMER
    32 ERIC MOLINA
    33 AMIR MANSOUR
    34 TONY GRANO
    35 MIKE GRANT
    36 LUCAS BROWNE
    37 LATEEF KAYODE
    38 LUIS ORTIZ
    39 BRIAN MINTO
    40 MATIAS VIDONDO
    41 KRYSZTOF ZIMNOCH
    42 OLIVER McCALL
    43 ANDRZEJ WAWRZYK
    44 RUSLAN CHAGAEV
    45 FRES OQUENDO
    46 BOWIE TUPOU
    47 IRINU COSTA JUNIOR
    48 SOLOMON HAUMONO
    49 MAURICE HARRIS
    50 AUDLEY HARRISON
     
  14. ludwig

    ludwig Boxing Addict Full Member

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    That's not a bad ranking but there are some blind spots (probably caused by uneven criteria) such as Glazkov at #4, Mitchell at #12, Banks at #14 (probably taking too much accout of IBF or WBC ratings). Pianeta has never beaten anyone of note; Charr has never beaten anyone of note convincingly. And so on.
     
  15. Matt in a hat

    Matt in a hat Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Here is Scott Gilfoid's top 10 from Nov.26 last year.
    It's like totally awesome!

    1. Bermane Stiverne

    2. Deontay Wilder

    3. Chris Arreola

    4. Bryant Jennings

    5. Alexander Povetkin

    6. Mike Perez

    7. Kubrat Pulev

    8. Alex Leapai

    9. Mariusz Wach

    10. Tony Thompson

    Sorry I could not resist.:happy:patsch:lol: