168 is Tailor Made for 3G, Why Are His Fans So Against it?

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  1. Mr Pibb

    Mr Pibb Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    So jr was a potential cherrypick based on being a bigger "name"

    Beating Ward actually means something..what does beating Jr mean:conf
     
  2. Bub

    Bub Boxing Addict Full Member

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    How long has Ward been at 168? How long was Hopkins at 160?

    Maybe Ward should offer GGG as much as he would have got to fight Chavez Jr then we'll know if he's avoiding him. There is no rush anyway, GGG is older than Ward so even if GGG stays at 160 for another couple of years, he can still fight Ward when he does move up.

    GGG seems just as ambitious as Ward. Like Ward, he wants to clear out his division but is not in a huge rush to move up. He will consider moving up for the right fight at the right price.
     
  3. Bub

    Bub Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Ask Ward. He seems to want to fight him too.
     
  4. Mr Pibb

    Mr Pibb Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    you got it backwards
    GG said he would not move up to fight Ward..but he was ready to fight Jr there...

    Duckage:deal
     
  5. Bub

    Bub Boxing Addict Full Member

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    You can never duck someone if they are not in your division.
     
  6. Mr Pibb

    Mr Pibb Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    GG is older than Ward:lol:

    HE is the one that has a lot more to prove.

    On the subject of Ward...GG didn't mention the money:deal...he said he wanted to clean out his dead division.

    He changed his tune in a hurry when Chavez Jr's name came up for a 168 match.

    Dude is CAREFULLY matched for a REASON.:deal

    Did you see his last fight against that slow-motion BUM?
    GG was getting caught CLEAN with lead-rights and he did not like those bodyshots at all..

    I think Jr stood a good chance at beating GG.
     
  7. Mr Pibb

    Mr Pibb Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    You can if you were ready to fight a lesser fighter ,but nutted-up when a better fighter was told you won't move up.
     
  8. Koba

    Koba Whimsical Inactivisist Full Member

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    GGGs a bum, yet to prove he's a bum he needs to fight the best SMW in the world? Does that even make sense to you, Pibb?

    Obviously GGGs a good fighter, but the gulf between Matt Macklin and Andre Ward could swallow continents - naturally a couple of second tier fights at 168 makes sense (specially if they're as rich as a Jr or Kessler fight) - why would anyone think he's ready for Ward before a single fight at SMW?

    You are of course correct tho in that Maravilla hasn't been avoiding GGG, and I'm completely confident that Sergio will fight Golovkin if the Cotto fight shows that he still has the physical tools to compete at at the top level.
     
  9. Bub

    Bub Boxing Addict Full Member

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    BS! It just shows that unlike Ward, GGG has the balls to at least fight some people above his weight class. Ward isn't even willing to fight anyone at 175.
     
  10. Bub

    Bub Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Well then he should do that in his own division before thinking about moving up.

    That's what a fighter is supposed to do, prove himself in his own division first. You don't try to fight the best in the division above before you've even fought the best in your own division.

    Yeah he's not gonna turn down a huge payday. I'm sure Ward would be willing to go to 175 for Chavez Jr. Maybe if Ward offered GGG the kind of money he could make against Chavez Jr, GGG would fight him at 168 too?

    So you criticize GGG for his quality of opposition but think it's ok for Ward (p4p #2) to fight someone (GGG) who is smaller than him and hasn't fought anyone at 160 never mind 168. :think
     
  11. Cisco Route

    Cisco Route He Who Says Nay banned

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    Gotta disagree with you here. There's a big difference in talent between 160 and 168. I personally think most if not all of the top 5 guys at 168 beat Golovkin...
     
  12. Cisco Route

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    Lol..
     
  13. antonio plaisir

    antonio plaisir the detonator Full Member

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    is it? are they?

    the more pertinent question is:

    why are you so desperate to get him away from 154?
     
  14. modernfonzie

    modernfonzie Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Im not. I've been on record saying he and Floyd would be a good fight, but with that being said. Theres a whole crop of fighters waiting at 168. He and Floyd isnt likely, (promotional ****, HBO/SHO)

    168 he could go for Ward, Froch, Chavez, Kessler so on and so forth.
     
  15. Durdlington

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    Once again ward fans seem to think GGG needs to be the one to make all of the sacrifices in order to have the honour of fighting him. I personally think ward needs to move to 175 and fight kovalev if he really needs a challenge. This is a no win for GGG. Move up and get paid less to fight ward when a ppv match with Martinez or cotto awaits him in the near future. No brainer here folks. Money talks in boxing, and ward isn't much of a draw. Nothing against ward, who I think is an amazing fighter, but he just doesn't pay the bills. Also, the Chavez argument is weak. A Chavez fight was gonna pay out huge and win lose or draw, each fighter would come out with a bigger fan base after an all out rumble. Ward on the other hand is more for the purest boxing fan, not much of a crowd pleaser otherwise. This is coming from a ward fan btw.