Mayweather hasn't lost Showtime one red cent

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Black Gatti, May 29, 2014.


  1. Villain

    Villain Active Member Full Member

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    This **** is funny as hell. People throwing around PPV buy counts to justify whether or not Mayweather is making Showtime money without knowing half of the other variables needed to answer that.

    Forget the actual bottom line figure that Mayweather was actually paid in cash and incentives.
    Forget the actual costs to put on each PPV event.
    Forget the venue profits and expenses.
    Forget that every PPV has different costs based on the opponent, venue, and market.
    Forget the actual amount showtime receives from PPV revenues when all the middle men are paid.
    Forget the added subscriptions to Showtime Mayweather may bring to the regular network based on his fight lead up shows, interviews, guest commentary, etc.

    Unless you have access to the networks books, it's pointless to speculate **** like this.
     
  2. The Shockmaster

    The Shockmaster SOG has 4 children...he pulls out of nothing banned Full Member

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    read my post in this thread....

    40 mil...plus 10-15 mil in step aside money to arum....its probably close to 60-40 in reality....closer than one might think.....putting all the numbers together and speculating on the revenue is tough...not concrete....but if you look at it its prob close to that....

    like i said...at the least manny could have said "lets talk about it....maybe if it meets certain revenue goals you will kick me more"....but he did nothing but hang up

    look at floyd canelo....**** did 2.4 mil...did some great numbers.....floyd walked away with like 70-80 mil and canelo about 10 mil.....and thats with floyd getting the lions share.......not to mention part of floyds take comes from merchandise and concessions too......so in hindsight kicking 50-55 mil to mannys side is a good chunk....and pac could have asked for more depending on certain revenue goals
     
  3. tennis

    tennis Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Manny. Has been a PPV star for over a decade

    Longer than Floyd even

    Arguably bigger than Floyd because Floyd's two biggest fights were both against Mexicans and the Ppv numbers were because of them

    You can't offer pacquiao zero Ppv and think he would even think about it
     
  4. Code Red

    Code Red Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    His own promoter offers him less than what Floyd offered him twice!! Manny is not a smart business man period!
     
  5. The Shockmaster

    The Shockmaster SOG has 4 children...he pulls out of nothing banned Full Member

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    listen im not going to get into an argument over whos a bigger ppv star or whatever....

    like i said....pac could have came back and made a request to make more with certain revenue goals attained

    again...look at how money was divided for floyd/canelo.....part of the expected revenue was built into floyds offer....he was handing over 50-55 mil to pacs side which isnt chump change.....some of the ppv revenue was already factored into that.......

    if floyd said heres 50-55 mil to you manny....then he has to pay arum out of it.....its really the same....50-55 mil was the real number offered which has ppv revenue built in it....pac could have said "if we do bigger numbers you kick me certain amount/percentage"....but pac didnt even entertain the idea
     
  6. Rico Spadafora

    Rico Spadafora Master of Chins Full Member

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    your numbers are not right cable and Satellite get 50% of PPV proceeds so the number isn't 64 mil it is 32 mil...factor in expenses for all 3 fights and other stuff so who knows what is left? We know it isn't 64 mil like you said though :lol::rofl:patsch
     
  7. The Shockmaster

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    weve already established that.....stop picking on dude cuz he said something wrong....most of us knew that number isnt right.......still i doubt showtime is losing any money.....they still get good live gate revenue...sponsorship money......basically means that floyd prob aint makinng any upside on maidana/guerrero....just his base pay

    anyways..id like someone to address how 40 mil to manny...10-15 to bob is some insulting offer based off ppv revenue? especially when you factor in the money that divided between floyd/canelo based upon the revenue they took in for that...

    cuz reality is...its not that insulting at all
     
  8. BlizzyBlizz

    BlizzyBlizz Loyal Member Full Member

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    This is astonishing lmao. The cluelessness is ridiculous.
     
  9. robert80

    robert80 Boxing Addict banned

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    Manny, earns 6 million according to nevada records, so who is the dummy again please?
     
  10. Green Man

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    You're the dummy , you're a demented old man that goes from thread to thread spitting the same lines over and over again you're a ***** version of Farmboxer you're *****boxer.
     
  11. robert80

    robert80 Boxing Addict banned

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    Truth hurts eh jackass!! 6miilion according to nevada right?
     
  12. Green Man

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    I dont give a **** about how much money Pac is making i am not getting any of it so why should i care, and why does a demented old man posting from his nursing home like you care so much about Pac and what kind of money he makes? Do you want him to pay for your meds? Do you need a new Rocking chair? What is it old fart?
     
  13. Vanboxingfan

    Vanboxingfan Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Nevada records don't really mean anything. It's just the salary for a particular fight, doesn't include PPV's or anything along those lines. I think Dana White said it doesn't even include fight of the night bonuses. In any event it's a useless number to try justifying any argument related to what fighters actually make, if they're in the upper echelon of the sport.
     
  14. mick557

    mick557 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    :deal:deal:deal
     
  15. camden1nj

    camden1nj Active Member Full Member

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    Math is a powerful thing if you know some. De La Hoya v. Floyd did 2.5 million buys and Oscar got a 53 million dollar guarantee. Now in 3 fights Floyd has been guaranteed 105 million and only sold 900k more buys than Oscar did in one fight and got DOUBLE the money Oscar got for one fight. Showtime lost cake.