If Froch manages to get a big W against another top level SMW or LWH for that matter

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  1. persianprince

    persianprince Boxing Addict Full Member

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    would that put him above Ward in terms of ranking? Let's say he finishes his career beating DeGale & Chavez Jr. or Golovkin.

    I mean Ward hasn't fought a live opponent in years and I'm sure that his two W's over Groves will look better and better in time, just like Pascal. And yes Ward is more skilled than Froch and beat him, but i'm starting to get tired off not seeing Ward fight and still be ranked #1 at SMW. Of course should Andre starts to fight at least twice a year, then he would be over Froch no questions there. Plus I'm not so sure whether Ward would beat Froch if they fought right now. Andre is very inactive and getting older and eventually his speed will slow him down, where as Froch just has become better and better. Especially if the fight toke place in England, how would Ward react to a hostile crowd?

    1. He is very inactive
    2. When he fights, he fights nobodies (Dawson at SMW - Pascal beat him at LWH) and a unproven Rodriguez.

    Since the Super 6

    Carl Froch

    Lucian Bute TKO5
    Yusuf Mack T or KO3
    Mikkel Kessler UD12
    George Groves TKO9
    George Groves KO8


    Andre Ward

    Chad Dawson TKO10
    Edwin Rodriguez UD12
     
  2. Super Hans

    Super Hans The Super Oneā„¢ banned

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    If Ward is willing to take the test for a rematch Froch defeats the glass chinned fraud.
     
  3. Pigeons

    Pigeons New Member Full Member

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    Edwin Rodriguez and George Groves are both unproven.

    Ward's inactivity is irrelevant as he has beaten every credible threat. Kessler, Bika, Abraham, Froch, and Dawson. That 5 will go head to head with any another other SMW's top 5. Add in the fact that he is undefeaed and most believe he is untouchable and you have a fighter that won't relinquish that top spot until he moves up in weight.
     
  4. second to none

    second to none Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Except he won't because Froch was schooled last time and nothing has changed since to think different if Ward is a fraud what does that make Froch who lost a one side fight to him.
     
  5. VG_Addict

    VG_Addict Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    And yet Ward schooled Froch. And he did it with a broken hand.
     
  6. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    Its a debateable thing I guess.
    This could be wrong below, but I think it is correct and as I recall it.
    During the S6, Ward beat Kessler and I seem to recall the ring ratings moving around and Bute being put at #1, with Ward at #2 for the Kessler win and Bute at 1. I think Ward went above after the Green or Bika win.
    Kessler beat Froch and went above Froch. Then Froch beat Abraham and I think went above Kessler. If that is correct how did Froch just go above Kessler one win later?

    Somehow Ward and Froch ended up numbers 1 and 2 before they fought which made a Ring champ. So Froch lost to Kessler and beating a fighter coming off a loss and after a SMW journeyman who was boiled down from LHW, put him above Kessler and Bute.

    As said that may be incorrect, but dont think it is
     
  7. DKD

    DKD Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I can't see Froch beating Ward and he's fought everyone else at super middle.

    I'd really like to see Froch in with Golovkin or Kovalev. Failing that Chavez Jr could be quite entertaining, if somewhat less competitive.
     
  8. dannyc1990

    dannyc1990 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    ward would beat froch easily again. The rematch wont happen... no way does froch end his career trying to beat ward.. he'd end on a loss..
     
  9. KillSomething

    KillSomething Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Ward has been inactive so long that Froch should be rated above him now. Of course Ward is better, but he is retired for all intents and purposes.

    Froch has beaten everybody Ward has (or has beaten people who have beaten the guys Ward beat, like Dawson), but Ward has that clear win over him.
     
  10. Pigeons

    Pigeons New Member Full Member

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    Ward fought 6 months ago vs. a top 5 ranked SMW. A SMW that has no proven no more and no less than George Groves. Froch's next fight vs. JCC Jr. will be against another "name", not "talent".
     
  11. Paperagent

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    Froch will never be better than Ward until he actually beats Andre Ward in a fight.
     
  12. second to none

    second to none Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Kovalev would be a suicide wish for Froch, christ everyone knows Froch has a shite defense, the guys very much a SMW fighting Kovaelv at LHW would be brutal for him if George Groves hurt him in the first fight Sergey would take his head off. I'm not hating Froch he doesn't need to go to LHW but Kovalev eats him alive Froch has a style to play right into his hands.
     
  13. HerolGee

    HerolGee Loyal Member banned Full Member

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    a smw would be mental to go up and face KO4Clev, the guy is a monster and could hold his own at heavyweight, for crying out loud.

    Forch would be best advised to chase some 40something LHWs in the style of joe cal, but the problem is he is not cowardzaghe enough to do that. Sorry I mean not 'cowardly' enough, my bad spelling there.
     
  14. Rico Spadafora

    Rico Spadafora Master of Chins Full Member

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    A DeGale win does nothing for him. Chavez and GGG are who he needs to be looking at next. A win in Vegas would be huge for the Froch 'brand'
     
  15. Rock0052

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    :lol::rofl:good