Is Carl Froch the second greatest British fighter of all time right behind Lewis?

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  1. VG_Addict

    VG_Addict Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Lewis has a better resume. He beat Holyfield, Golota, Morrison, Bruno, Ruddock, Briggs, and Tua.

    Lewis would have knocked Wlad out.
     
  2. Rumsfeld

    Rumsfeld Moderator Staff Member

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    You're groslly over emphasizing the degree to which subsequent Hopkins' wins add to CALZAGHE'S legacy.

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  3. attaboi

    attaboi Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    A split decision win at that.
     
  4. Unforgiven

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    I don't care. I'm going to live and die. I couldn't give a **** who wants to mix with who. People are people. If you go back half a million years people probably looked completely different, the races were completely different, the humans bred and multiplied, and changed in appearance. My guess is that will carry on over time. I'll be dead, and it wouldn't effect me anyway.

    INDIVIDUALS definitely have attributes. I'm not sure about 'race attributes', it's kind of irrelevant. It has no bearing on my life. You get 'superior' individuals within each race, good people, clever people, good-looking people. It's interesting that many racists are of the inferior type - weak, ugly or stupid. Everyone has to prove themself as an individual, that's the way I see it. Make the most of what you got, stand on your own two feet , do not hide behind 'race' . That only appeals to the weak and insecure.


    If you want to go around looking for things to whine about, if you want to go around looking to be a victim, then maybe.
     
  5. VG_Addict

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    Seriously, try to make a case for Vitali being better than Lewis.
     
  6. Paperagent

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    Do you think that cut would have happened again in a rematch?

    Moreover do you honestly think that a younger, more physically prime, but reckless and offensive Lewis without the tutelage of Emanuel Steward would have beaten the Vitali that fought Lewis? I think not.

    I consider that fight to be a product of unfortunate circumstances.
     
  7. HerolGee

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    which one of the cuts are you referring to?
     
  8. VG_Addict

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    Lewis fought in a better era. He also cleaned out the division.
     
  9. Paperagent

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    I didn't ask you to retort in such a smart ass manner.

    I asked a basic question that demands a legitimate answer.
     
  10. dan4579

    dan4579 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Yes, I would say that a man who has never been the best fighter in his own weight division is the 2 nd best Brittish history, behind only a Jamiacan born heavyweight who won a gold medal for Canada and spent most of his pro career living in Miami and being trained by an American. Must really suck being a Brittish fight fan. All well, you'll always have your Spice Girls box set to look back on ;)
     
  11. Paperagent

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    All I said was that Lennox Lewis cannot be in the ATG British fighters list because he is technically not British. He didn't live in Britain for a lot of his young life. Why is it such a crime to state a simple opinion? :conf
     
  12. El-blanco

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    Sorry who did Lewis represent in the Olympics?
     
  13. bipop

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    Who is this "Jamiacan" born heavyweight?
     
  14. Rumsfeld

    Rumsfeld Moderator Staff Member

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    Fair enough!
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    I think Hopkins is most troubled by boxers who have the combination of (A) fast hands, and (B) good footwork and an ability to command distance.

    Jones, Calzaghe, and Dawson all had this combination in abundance and this troubled Hopkins accordingly, I think. I believe Ward fits the mold, and my personal opinion is that his combination of hand speed and range control is the best of the bunch if you include him with the aforementioned trio. So I sincerely believe that Ward beats the Hopkins who lost to Calzaghe but still schooled Pavlik, who lacked especially fast hands and was good but not great at controlling distance, and this only when his jab was working and not being neutralized.
     
  15. wide_open_road

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    I'm more than likely more pure Anglo Saxon than you, i've probably got more right to the landed gentry than you, yet i hate my lineage, i detest Britain & all that shitty third world, tepid bunch of isles stands for

    BTW, what do immigrants do in my country? besides all the pasty British ****s stretching our resources at beaches all over Australia having to be saved & then overstaying visas

    you lot make me sick, just **** off, racist scum