Wladimir Hugs like A Proud Girlfriend Because

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  1. Bulletproof

    Bulletproof Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Wlad holds because his psyche is that of a frightened child. In that back of his mind he knows a single shot could end his night. I actually think he can't help it, it's a defense mechanism.
     
  2. The Mongoose

    The Mongoose I honor my bets banned

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    Would you like to make a bet, Mr. Duck?

    You've ducked two already.
     
  3. dan4579

    dan4579 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    The judges in the Haye fight gave Wladimir the fight 10 rounds to 2, 9 to 3 and 8 to 4 on the last card. That is hardly "scraping out a points win". In fact it is much more dominant than Lennox Lewis' big win over another small, former cruiserweight named Evander.

    The only person we know of that was actually there when Tank was in camp says Tank was thrown out for constantly punching below the belt and general dickish-ness. Were you there? No. Do you really believe Tank is too tough for Wlad? No. If Wlad defended his title against Tank would you be impressed? Hell no.

    There's a lot of questionable things aroumd that last Brewster fight, but I'll follow Wladimirs lead and leave that in the past. I think the rematch does the talking. Why do you never bring up the rematch when you are so quick to bring up the first bout?

    Why do you continue to insist Wlad has poor stamina when the punch stats clearly show he does not? Why do you have so much hatred for the K bros anyway? Did they do something to personaly effect you? Even if you don't care for their style, you have to admit they are good role models, hard workers, smart men, and great fignters.

    Once, just once, we would all like to see you post one nice thing about one of the Klischkos. They must have each done something you respect...
     
  4. sas111

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    Wlad was poisoned or something that match. How could he punched himself out till 5th round. He was at 28 that day. This is not TT or Price to gas out.
     
  5. chitownfightfan

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    I think anyone who calls himself a fan of boxing would be wanting to know why 2 independent labs destroyed his blood/urine tests, and why his blood sugar at the ER was well over that of a person in a diabetic coma.

    Team Klitschko paid 2 different laboratories in the Vegas area $$$ to have his samples analyzed, and when they sought the results, both laboratories had inexplicably destroyed the samples and LOST the toxicology results.

    I also think any fan would want to know who was the mystery man given unrestricted access to Klitschos corner with a credential never signed for.
    Why does Sdunek switch water bottles between the 2nd and 3rd rds.

    It is a proven fact that Rohypnol is out of the system in 48-72 hours, and that in small doses it can create lethargy and raise blood sugar.

    Now, we write it off as gassing, and we clearly see he was exhausted and that ER test results show he was in diabetic shock. As I stated earlier, Rohypnol can cause blood sugar irregularities as a side effect.

    Im not gonna get into conspiracy and label Sdunek, and I don't want to take away from Brewster's acheivement in beating a "gassed" Klitschko.......

    But as a fan of boxing, I would love the answers to those questions irt the destroyed labs, the unknown person given the credential, and why an otherwise healthy male trained to go 12 hard rds had an inexplicable blood sugar level.:think:think:think
     
  6. VG_Addict

    VG_Addict Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Wlad is lucky he fights in a garbage era.
     
  7. dinovelvet

    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

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    Yeah and Brewster punching his known glass head and body had absolutely nothing at all whatsoever to do with it:patsch
    You sound like a stupid clown printing that.
     
  8. dan4579

    dan4579 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    As if current Wlad couldn't outpoint 1999 Holyfield or ko a badly faded 2003 Mike Tyson. Think about it:patsch
     
  9. dan4579

    dan4579 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    What's your take on Wlad-Brewster 2, clown?
     
  10. VG_Addict

    VG_Addict Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    What point are you trying to make by saying that Wlad would beat the worst versions of Holyfield and Tyson? Are comparing Wlad to Lewis? Because Lewis has MUCH better wins than those two. He beat Tua, Morrison, Bruno, Ruddock, and Golota.
     
  11. dinovelvet

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    Came out of an injury induced retirement and had his license revoked. Same injury that retired Margo.
    Brewster was done. Meaningless victory.
     
  12. Odins beard

    Odins beard Fentanyl is one hell of a drug.... Full Member

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    Tua is one of the most overrated heavies in recent memory. His only claim to fame is blowing away one of the weakest champions in recent memory in Ruiz.

    He went life and death with nearly every half decent fighter he fought.

    Then you have perennial KO loser Golota who whilst a good fighter was never anything special I'm sure I'm right in saying that both Brewster and Austin got rid of him in a round along with Lewis.

    Morrison was an entertaining fighter but again nothing special, good fighters don't lose to people like Michael Bent.

    Bruno and Ruddock again are good but not great victories.

    Not knocking Lewis, he was a great fighter but an era where John Ruiz, David Tua, Michael Grant and a 3 round max version of Mike Tyson are in your top 5, isn't exactly stacked to the rafters either.
     
  13. dan4579

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    My point is that while I do feel Lewis at his best would likely beat Wladimir, if you switch eras I believe Wladimir has the skill set to accomplish everything Lewis did in the 1990's and early 2000's.
    Wlad can only fight those in his era, like Lewis did. Wlad also maintained his prime and dominance much longer than Lewis so I feel Wladimir is an all time great heavyweight just like Lennox, Evander, Ali, Lewis and Holmes.
     
  14. Rock0052

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    This is a fair perspective. People love sluggers though- always have, always will. Lewis feasted on orthodox sluggers, so fans who love them will believe Lewis fought insane competition rather than just good/very good comp. Lewis had plenty of practice outboxing that style but, if nothing else, those guys could all crack (and we saw that firsthand a couple of times with him).

    The devil's advocate's perspective has to be "where are the movers, counterpunchers, and southpaws on Lennox's resume and how would he have done against the ones Wlad fought?" Maybe he does as well as Wlad did, maybe he doesn't- we have no proxy because those styles or attributes aren't represented on Lennox's resume. That'll happen when one fighter has almost 50% more fights than the other.

    They're both historically great fighters and I think it's an insult to bash either or not give them their due.
     
  15. Odins beard

    Odins beard Fentanyl is one hell of a drug.... Full Member

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    :good

    Great post!