1. Wlad Klitschko 2. Povetkin 3. Pulev 4. Stiverne 5. Glazkov 6. Carlos Takam 7. Wilder 8. Tony Thompson 9. Tyson Fury 10. Chisora 11. Chambers 12. Chagaev 13. Bryant Jennings 14. Adamek 15. Helenius 16. Mike Perez 17. Cunningham 18. Arreola 19. Wach 20. Solis 21. Francesco Pianeta 22. Ustinov 23. Christian Hammer 24. Andy Ruiz JR 25. Luis Ortiz 26. Charr 27. Alex Leapai 28. Price 29. Banks 30. Lucas Browne 31. Dimitrenko 32. Abdusalamov (likely retired but fought in the last year) 33. Andrzej Wawrzyk 34. Boytsov 35. Erkan Teper 36. Scott 37. Fres Oquendo 38. Spizka 39. Mansour 40. Kevin Johnson I think I'm happy with that. I can see a case for Povetkin, Pulev and Stiverne being interchangeable very little between them. Like wise spots 5 to 12. I suppose Lateef Kayode and old Shannon Briggs could break the top 40 with their next fights maybe.
pretty good rankings, with the exception of abdusalomov. i know its because he fought in the past year.
Kevin Johnson? the guy's lost 3 or 4 of his last fights in a row, he is not top 40 anymore, you also have Chagaev and Dimitrienko too high, other than that good list :good
I'd take me too much time to create a top 40 list, but I regularly update by top 20. Champion: Wladimir Klitschko #01: Kubrat Pulev #02: Alexander Povetkin #03: Bermane Stiverne #04: Tyson Fury #05: Vyacheslav Glazkov #06: Tomasz Adamek #07: Dereck Chisora #08: Deontay Wilder #09: Bryant Jennings #10: Carlos Takam #11: Mike Perez #12: Tony Thompson #13: Odlanier Solis #14: Ruslan Chagaev #15: Chris Arreola #16: Francesco Pianeta #17: Manuel Charr #18: Luis Ortiz #19: Alex Leapai #20: Steve Cunningham Inactive: David Haye Mariusz Wach Robert Helenius You could probably make a case for both Pulev and Povetkin being #1, I gave a slight edge to Pulev due to being undefeated, but it's really Povetkin who has faced and beaten better opponents. They are both clearly the top 2 guys behind Klitschko, and it the only way I see them losing those spots is someone actually beating them or going on a series of impressive wins. Stiverne, Fury and Glazkov are also clearly the top 5 guys in my opinion, I guess that you can make a case for either of them being ranked #3, #4 or #5, but not any higher. As for Adamek, he's not really a top 10 boxer anymore. The only reason I rank him as #6 is that he had a nice streak of wins on paper (since some of those wins were in fact controversial). It's pretty much the same with Chisora, although his wins were more legit, but also against lesser opponents. The rest of top 10 is harder to determine, maybe you could make case for Takam being higher based on his victory over Thompson and a disputed draw with Perez. Wilder has been knocking guys out and although he may be not what he's being presented to be, I think that he has done enough for the top 10. As for Jennings, defeating another undefeated prospect is always a plus in my opinion. The rest of list is obviously more arguable. Pianeta has bounced back well after the defeat to Klitschko, Charr had his winning streak (ala Chisora) prior to his defeat to Povetkin, and Leapai, who is actually not a top 20 guy, still has a win over an undefeated Boytsov and it remains to be seen what happens to him now after the defeat to Wladimir.
It's not a bad list, except for some things: Stiverne at number 4? Yes, he's a belt holder, but resume wise Tyson Fury is ahead of him. Carlos Takam at 6? Ahead of men like Fury, Adamek, Chisora and Arreola? Based on what? His only two notable wins are Perez and Thompson. Good, but many have done better. The guy doesn't deserve the 6th spot, not yet. The last thing is Wilder at 7. This is beyond ridicolous, it's not even debatable, he hasn't fought a single top 20 or 30 yet he's in the top 10? Boxrec lists him at number 9, and this is still totally made up. Basically the one and only reason one could rank him at that point is "i think he has potential because he's big and ripped". But if he really had that huge potential, to win easily against everyone, he would have already fought at least a top 10 boxer. Not even one. By this reasoning, Anthony Joshua is the solid #2 or even 1, since he's bigger and more muscolar than anyone else.
I don't see that. Fury certainly isn't ahead of him anyway, especially after looking dreadful in his last fight. The manner of Stiverne's last two wins over Arreola gets him extra points for me too. Takam is a fine example of someone taking the right fights at the right time. Pulled up a few decent wins for a prospect against tough journeymen Botha, Samir Kurtagic and Oloukun to put himself on the map then made some quality matchmaking to seriously move up. Michael Grant at the time of the fight I had around 30 or 40 in the World, so Takam's big ko over him saw him break the top 40. Then onto Mike Perez who was just outside the top 10 if not in it after his devastating and brutal beat down of Mago. Mike Perez was seen as the most exciting HW on the scene when Takam took the fight. As we all know Takam could have possibly won that fight. either way his draw was enough to see him crack at least the top 20. Then on to Thompson who was a clear top 10 after his two big ko's over Price and not to forget his win over Solis who was also ranked highly at the time. So I think it would be very unfair not to have Takem in the top 10 considering his current run. I disagree. As this handy thread proves. http://www.boxingforum24.com/showthread.php?t=423986 Although for the record I think Takam loses to must in the top 20, he's a poor mans Chisora for me but his cv gets him the higher ranking. He's more there due to the manner of his wins over decent'ish foes like The White Wolf, Audley, Scott and Firtha. Although saying that, even though the fight looked dogedy as fcuk I still had Scott ranked very high (top 20) prior to the Wilder fight. So I had to move Wilder up a massive amount of places after that. Nonsense. He hasn't even stepped up to british fringe domestic level yet.
This was my ranking mid May, before Povetkin vs Charr and Takam vs Thompson. 1. Klitschko 2. Pulev 3. Stiverne 4. Povetkin 5. Thompson 6. Fury 7. Chisora 8. Glazkov 9. Takam 10. Perez 11. Arreola 12. Jennings 13. Adamek 14. Ustinov 15. Ruiz Jr 16. Cunningham 17. Pianeta 18. Browne 19. Teper 20. Ortiz 21. Mansour 22. Wilder 23. Chagaev 24. Briggs 25. Chambers 26. Price 27. Leapai 28. Charr 29. Solis 30. Charles Martin New ranking: 1. Klitschko 2. Povetkin 3. Pulev 4. Stiverne 5. Takam 6. Fury 7. Chisora 8. Glazkov 9. Perez 10. Thompson 11. Arreola 12. Jennings 13. Adamek 14. Ustinov 15. Ruiz Jr 16. Cunningham 17. Pianeta 18. Browne 19. Teper 20. Ortiz 21. Mansour 22. Wilder 23. Chagaev 24. Briggs 25. Chambers 26. Price 27. Leapai 28. Charr 29. Solis 30. Charles Martin
:rofl The Champ only got one win in the top 10 in a fight he should of been DQ'd and 4 over all out of the top 20. Dominant my assatsch
He rose up the hard way....thru the WBF. Be thankful Holyfield backed out of their fight or the then 48 y/o Holyfield might be dead or worse. But your still underestimating the value of Grant, and 42 y/o Botha was fresh and hungry whne Takam went toe to toe with him for 11 rds. Gbenga Oloukun is no pushover. Mathces most guys shot for shot, and if your beard aint solid, your'e NOT winning. Krackic was a solid regional CW titlist, and has made a decent journeyman round at HW. Levan Jomardashvili was being built as a CW contender til he met Masternak and Takam, and last but not least, Sam Kurtagic has made the rds among HW prospects and contenders in Europe. All of these are NOTABLE wins. Boxrec ranks according to quality of the win and gives it a numerical value......@ #6, Takam has obviously done something right.:deal
I'm not sure if you know what the term "dominance" means. Since Klitschko defeated Peter and Byrd and became the champion, he has been constantly taking on the top challengers. He unified against top contender Ibragimov, defeated Chagaev (#2 behind Vitali at the time), Chambers (#3 behind Vitali and Povetkin), Haye (#2 behind Vitali) and Povetkin (#1 after Vitali retired). In between those fights he was taking on the challengers from the top 20 (with maybe 1 or 2 exceptions like Mormeck), including many up and coming undefeated fighters. Constantly taking on the best available established contenders and winning in a convincing fashion is what reflects the "dominance", not the current ratings which usually drop a boxer once he is defeated. Not to mention that Wladimir has been doing that for 10 years.
How can you rank Wilder in the to 10 when he hasn't even fought or beaten a top 15 Heavyweight? :rofl:rofl
Look, you can say what you want, but there's no denying possible that Tyson Fury ranks well ahead of Stiverne. And seeing how other peoples are doing it, it only shows brilliantly the power of HYPE. Fury earned his spot as number 4 of the division, and as of now, only Wlad, Povetkin and Pulev are above him. Pulev could even be considered behind him in terms of quality of opponents. theres no way Stiverne ranks above him actually, not going with the resume nor in terms of physical potential. But, for the sake of it, let's say we give trust to him and leave him in his unearned spot, confident he'll back it up in the future. Now about Carlos Takam. The guy may be a nice bloke, promising and all that, but he literally only beat Thompson so far. Against Perez, an untested prospect, he scored a draw. Even giving him a victory, that's a struggled one, and against a midget. And deontay wilder... sorry, but it isn't even worth discussing it, really. The guy may as well be a troll for what he have done so far. It would be the most logical explaination, Deontay is trolling the entire world. He Has Never Beat Anyone In The Top 30, Despite Being Clamored To Be Terminator And To Be Able To Stop Anyone With Two Punches. Scott Farcical Win Was A Dive. There's no other way to put it.
Dominance means fighting and beating the best available contenders which Clinchko isn't doing now. He had to foul and cheat his way to victory against the one top contender he did face. He could not even beat him cleanly and within the rules. Last decade Vitali ranked #2 so his dominance was shared with his brother.
In 10 years: 1. Nokyahedov Rilqik 2. Jabalotazem Aldayz 3. Stiffstileabit Notluz 4. Klazkavch Vidynkal 5. Dyoskydev Zilichzw 6. Zywxvut Tuvxyz 7 to 39. etc. etc. 40. Bernard Hopkins
