30 Jabs and occasional right hands > 15ish Power shots?

Well "winner" looks all messed up and "loser" looks all clean, that's not the ultimate indication , but this time I'd go with power shots and provo

 

First off, I thought it was a close fight that could have gone either way. I'm talking more scoring philosophy, not arguing that verdict.

Jabs can be very effective, especially if they are upsetting the other guy's rhythm and ability to get off. And if your head gets popped back by a jab, it's an effective punch.

A "power shot" that does no more damage than a jab popping back the other guy's head doesn't rate any higher.

And to me "aggression" doesn't just mean coming forward. If you are moving forward and not throwing (many) punches, you aren't being aggressive, you're just moving forward. If you are moving laterally and throwing more punches, you are more aggressive because you're the one doing the fighting (by throwing punches). Aggression has less to do with directional movement, IMO, than in what you're doing with your hands while you're moving in whatever direction.

Prime Ali, for instance, was often the more aggressive fighter (by initiating the exchanges) than guys who were coming at him but weren't throwing punches because they were bewildered by his speed and punch output.

But that's just me.

 

Spot on. Many viewers become enamored with power as much as the fighters themselves do (and as many a powerful guy will lose a fight seeking to land that knockout punch because they are in love with their power, so too can fans and scorers at home fall in love with it, to their scoring deteriment).

 

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THATS NOT JUST YOU. It's anyone who KNOWS boxing.

I think that the shots Algeri was landing were actually not that light... I think the crowd yelling when he got hit was what made the punches seem harder... Ruslan probably has whiplash after getting hit with all those jabs... They were snapping his headback... Algeri would move when he got hit with Ruslan on his feet away from the punch which means he took less of it...

I thought worst case scenario for Algeri was that Ruslan could take it by a round... Not sure why some of these terrible scorers like steve "nerd" wisefeld had it 117-109...

 

Apart from the first round, I didn't see a lot of evidence of Ruslan's punches being any more powerful than Algieri's sharper shots.

Power comes into play when you rock the other guy or knock him down, or the fear of getting hit again stops him throwing punches (see the Andrade fight). Just because Fighter A is perceived to be the bigger punches, or because he does damage with his punches in one round (i.e. the early knockdowns) when he might have landed cleanly or on the right spot, doesn't mean his shots should count for 2 or 3 or 4 of the other guy's.

 

Take close look at Provodnikov's face, then take a look at Algieri's face, then tell me who won the fight. When Provodnkov landed punches they hurt Algieri, when Algieri landed punches they did nothing, no marks on Provodnikov, but Algieri looked he had been run over by a truck...............clearly a home town decision. I suspect Gamboa will get cheated in Crawford's home town as well. When will fighters ever learn not to fight in the other fighter's home town?

 

Yes your missing objectivity. Ruslan got schooled by someone with one eye. If you thought prod won you are bias and delusional. And I love prod, prod Bradley was one of the best fights I've ever seen.

 

I thought you were wiser than that.

The damage to the eye was done in the first round ... so you're saying everything after that doesn't matter.

And that's such a wrong approach: boxing isn't a contest to decide who has tougher -- and less likely to cut or swell -- skin.

This fight aside, you surely realize that a punch landing in the eye area can cause swelling and close the eye. So is that how we should just fights? Just have two guys try to spear each other in the eye? Of if the thumb portion of the glove, even an attached thumb, lands right it can do the same thing.

Let's take another scenario: Fighter A got his nose busted in his final sparring session. It's not broken, just tender, so he goes ahead with the fight. Fighter B didn't have that happen. So in the fight, Fighter A gets hit in the nose and it starts to bleed. He immediately counters with a punch of the exact same force to the nose of Fighter B ... who doesn't bleed because his nose wasn't previously busted -- does that mean Fighter B wins the fight, because he's not bleeding.

If the swollen eye was such a big deal, why wasn't Provo better able to follow up on it?

 

In pro boxing the harder blows count more than a blows that make a girls look powerful. First round 10-7, and Provodnikov won many other rounds as well.............I have seen fights stopped because of a swollen eye like that, what caused it? Did Algiera run into the ring post? What about the body blows, etc., no, I as so many others has Provodnikov winning that fight.............

 

I also went with Provo, but can see how the fight went the way it did.

 

he wasnt landing much after the first few rounds, ALgeri was just boxing his ears off. one or 2 good power shots dont beat jabs, defense and clean hooks that snap back prov's head.

Algeri won alot of rounds.

 

You've seen fights stopped because of a swollen eye because the guy couldn't see the punches coming and got repeatedly hit by them. That wasn't the case here.

If so, something must have been wrong with Provo's eyes because he kept getting hit more than the other guy.

Ruslan won the first round 10-7 because of the knockdowns, which demonstrates superior punching power when he landed flush. I didn't see Algieri getting knocked down again, or getting rocked chicken-legs style. His other punches didn't have that affect, thus should not be treated as if he was swinging a wrecking ball.

 

Four things in scoring a fight are a) "effective" aggression, b) defense, c) ring generalship, and d) clean and hard punching.

That's what wins fights

Not backpedaling and pity pat punching !

 

Exactly.

If this was the amateurs then Chris "Forrest Gump" Allgirly would probably win fighting the way he did last night but this is the pros not the amateurs.

Provo got robbed.