Guererro using crossfit in his comeback.

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by STB, Jun 18, 2014.


  1. STB

    STB #noexcuses Full Member

    15,486
    41
    Mar 26, 2014
    Im sure they wouldnt tire, their form would be awful im sure.
     
  2. kommieforniaglo

    kommieforniaglo Boxing Junkie Full Member

    8,396
    15
    Jun 10, 2010
    Well let's not jump to conclusions, I too am skeptical, but we should wait and watch and see how this plays out on Saturday.

    Let's keep an open mind, who know's if we see any noticeable changes in him
     
  3. kommieforniaglo

    kommieforniaglo Boxing Junkie Full Member

    8,396
    15
    Jun 10, 2010

    I am thinking this too.


    Problem I have with Cross fit it is the whole "scene/culture" its almost "Cultish" the way their fanboys praise it on social media. One thing I can say is that the friends and relatives I have that do it are in great shape and some of them weren't so much.

    Me, I jog, I run, and I do some weights at the gym, I am still pudgy so who am I to judge???
     
  4. Brighton bomber

    Brighton bomber Loyal Member Full Member

    31,349
    29,583
    Apr 4, 2005
    I can't believe he couldn't even do a pull up and his performance on attempting an L-sit was embarrassing. If he's in such poor physical shape any kind of S&C will hopefully be a benefit. But I guess we'll see if he has improved at all when he steps into the ring.
     
  5. LeeJonesJnr

    LeeJonesJnr Active Member Full Member

    1,358
    3
    Dec 18, 2013
    I don't know how many people on here actually train or participate in any sport but its not at all surprising that he finds a new exercise very difficult - it is always tough to do something that you don't usually do. Recently we had a football team come do a session at the gym, all very fit and healthy lads, all struggled to get through a boxing workout.
     
  6. daprofessor

    daprofessor da legendary professor Full Member

    12,240
    14
    Sep 1, 2007
    choose your sport robert.
     
  7. Eastcoast

    Eastcoast Boxing Addict Full Member

    5,763
    2
    Dec 1, 2005
    Lots of ignorance here. It's not Crossfit itself, but the type of training techniques and approach it takes that are extremely benificial to boxers & mma. Your new S&C coaches like Gavin McMillian, Ariza (minus the supplements) utilize the same approach to get remarkable results. Muscle confusion training techniques are awesome in developing and maintaing peak level stamina, speed, and strength. Stephen Edwards, Julian Williams trainer utilies this approach with J-Rock and Porter.

    I don't do Crossfit, but use a similar approach and gained way more in stamina, speed, and strength over traditional running, rope, crunches, ect.
     
  8. markclow

    markclow Well-Known Member Full Member

    2,368
    325
    Aug 23, 2005
    I do CrossFit 5 days a week and it has made me fitter no doubt, and more flexible too.

    However I have had more injuries than before.

    I quite like it and I believe it could help as part of the training plan.
     
  9. Punisher73

    Punisher73 Member Full Member

    263
    15
    Nov 24, 2009
    Biggest problem with Crossfit? You are just exercising, you are not training. There is no systematic plan to improve your performance. The top guys in Crossfit competitions, don't train like most Crossfit "boxes" (not sure why you can't call them a gym), they train systematically to build and improve those things.

    Lots of medical literature out about how performance mechanics degrade in Olympic lifts for high reps. This is why so many Crossfitters get injured. They have poor technique many times and then throw in the high reps and it gets worse. Somehow injuries are like a badge of honor for many of them. huh? The point should be to stay healthy.

    That being said. Crossfit CAN be good for many people who have no goal other than to be healthy and want to exercise. For athletes, it is not always the best method because while it will improve your general physical preparedness, it is not specific to your sport. Strangely enough, science tells us that the best way to improve at your sport is to do your sport.

    A boxer would be better off training weight movements that mimic what they do for their sport and those supporting muscles. They can get stronger this way, but rely on shadow boxing, sparring etc. for their conditioning/endurance actually DOING what they need to do in the ring.
     
  10. freddy-wak

    freddy-wak M O D E R A T O R Full Member

    36,443
    29
    Oct 28, 2004
    "there's no ****en way this guys a 6x world champ"





    coach was right on that one...hahahahaha
     
  11. daprofessor

    daprofessor da legendary professor Full Member

    12,240
    14
    Sep 1, 2007
    i am always amused by these guys who have never boxed a day in their lives talk about what they can do to help boxers perform better. i've yet to see anyone make a difference. boxing is unlike any other sport. it's not always about strength and power or explosiveness.
     
  12. miniq

    miniq AJ IS A BODYBUILDING BUM Full Member

    48,095
    28,059
    Oct 23, 2011
    Look at all the great fighters past and present...then judge for yourself what fitness and exercises you need to do....most of the time it won't mean **** when you need to improve your boxing....Give Guerrero all the PEDS in the world and he still wouldn't be able to touch a guy like Floyd.
     
  13. Piece

    Piece Well-Known Member Full Member

    2,476
    7
    May 3, 2014
    Of course strength and conditioning improves fighters, but crossfit is stupid.

    If you engage in it, I hope you realize how dumb it is before you get seriously injured, and then you have a chronic pain for the rest of your life.
     
  14. Piece

    Piece Well-Known Member Full Member

    2,476
    7
    May 3, 2014
    Apparently, you're not familiar with Gavin MacMillans' training style because it's in complete contrast to what you and small pecho are trying to advertise here.

    He goes off the basis that strength is neurological. You improve strength by activitating muscle fibers, but that doesn't necessarily mean lifting the maximal amount of weight.

    That's a lazy man's way of doing things.

    You need to use your mind to create tension. And as far as a deadlift is concerned, you can either use speed and weight to create power, rather than just maximal weight.

    This is why people improve their deadlifts by performing kettlebellswings with a fraction of the weight they use for deadlifting.

    You need to open your mind too.

    Especially small pecho who is just waiting for an injury with his dumbass crossfitting.
     
  15. Piece

    Piece Well-Known Member Full Member

    2,476
    7
    May 3, 2014
    Nah man, don't kid yourself.

    You're probably just young.

    Those injuries add up. They come back to haunt you unless you make significant lifestyle improvements now.

    Honestly, I would focus on strength based calisthenic movements, balstics with kettlebells (not the American swing, but the Russian Swing) and Yoga movements.

    ...if you want to be overall fit.

    Crossfit will **** you up long term. For the LONG term.

    You remember that ****.

    You only get one body.