Opinion on Weigh-Ins?

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  1. shanahan14

    shanahan14 Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    After the Lomachenko fight I was remembering his fight against Salido. How Salido couldn't make weight and was 147 lbs on fight night. He was stripped of the title, but no penalties really that I can recall.

    So, what is your opinion on a fighter who wins but missed weight? Do you view it as tainted or not? Also, what is your view on someone who blows up overnight and has a big weight advantage and beats their opponent?

    For some reason I never really look at that, but when someone fails to make weight, especially at a lower class, I always kinda view it as cheating. But when someone blows up overnight (i.e. Canelo 20 lbs) I guess I just don't really think about it, which is a bit hypocritical.

    I believe Pacquiao lost a fight where he was penalized by wearing heavier gloves for missing weight. Do you think that is a good punishment?

    Please no Pac-Floyd flame war. Just an example I thought of.
     
  2. weegriffin

    weegriffin Boxing Addict Full Member

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    You usually have to pay a fine if you don't make weight.

    Then it is up for the other team to decide if the fight should go on and whether or not to have a rehydration clause.

    Such as when Broner when in heavy at 130 lbs I believe he had to pay a fine and be under a certain weight on the day.
     
  3. miniq

    miniq AJ IS A BODYBUILDING BUM Full Member

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    Depends...circumstances are important...

    I give no respect to guys like Broner and Rios who used to gain 20 lb's overnight then just beat up smaller men...Rios did a good job when he finally fought someone his own size (Alvarado) so why he had to beat on smaller dudes I don't know...confidence issues with that lack of boxing ability.

    Salido barely won...you can't really say his size gave him a big advantage....
     
  4. Clearly Cool

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    With regards to not making weight....it is a form of cheating (if intentional). It might only be a tiny bit of wieght, but that can represent hours of sweat and energy they didn't have to bust their asses losing. Giving them not only more weight in their punches, but also less stress and wear on their bodies going into the fight.

    As far as blowing up in weight for fight night....it is more of a problem with the weigh in system. If they are following the rules, I can't get too upset with them. Surely it can't be too good for them to drain down so much weight to put it back on so quickly. I feel this would unfairly favor some boxers (body types, metabolisms) and it seems odd two boxers from a set weight class could be fighting for that belt with maybe two or three weightclasses between them on fight night.....that's messed up.
     
  5. Clearly Cool

    Clearly Cool Active Member Full Member

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    Yeah but maybe that's what got him over the line?
     
  6. shanahan14

    shanahan14 Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Not trying to turn this into a war with the particular fight. But I really don't understand that logic at all. He barely won, so I can't say size gave him an advantage? Of course it did and I think that is probably the main reason he did win the fight.
     
  7. progamer

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    fight night weight isnt a big advantage as much as people make it out to be.

    if youre gaining too much weight on fight night, it also means youre draining that much, which kinds of just balances things out.


    weightclasses are defined by weigh-ins, not fight night weights.


    coming overweight on weigh ins are different though. arguably 1 weight class difference.

    there should be stricted penalty for violators and even stricter ones for repeaters.
     
  8. progamer

    progamer Boxing Junkie banned

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    another idiotic comment by a *****. because he barely won he didnt ahve the advantage coming overweight.

    if he came on weight, he was the one gonna get beat up.


    there is a reason there are weight classes in boxing. so that a win is going to be defined by skill and not size.

    if you are overweight during weigh in, then technically, at minimum, youre already a weight class above your opponent, which means size begins to matter more than the skill.
     
  9. miniq

    miniq AJ IS A BODYBUILDING BUM Full Member

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    So i'm a *****, *******, Matthyse fanboy and a Khantard....

    god damn :lol:
     
  10. markq

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    Pac WAS penalized for wearing heavier gloves and he also cheated on the scales being the bigger guy at a CATCHWEIGHT. BUT, he lost because he got KTFO! That was his punishment for being a cheat.

    He learned from that lesson, you drain em, you win. That's why he has the most catchweights of anybody in the history of boxing.
     
  11. modernfonzie

    modernfonzie Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    :lol:
     
  12. shanahan14

    shanahan14 Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    You would.