The dempsey step drop! Keys to power

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  1. closedguard

    closedguard Active Member Full Member

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    This is taken from sugarboxing.com I can't post the link
    so here it goes.

    1. Sugarboxing says to SET YOUR BODY WEIGHT IN EXPLOSIVE MOTION! IMO set your position proportionate to that of sprinters motion.

    2. FORM A POWER-LINE WITH PUNCHING ARM! Turn your thumb upwards with the elbow pointing towards the ground whilst fully extending the arm.

    3. EXPLODE AGAINST YOUR OPPONENT! Fall into him with your weight using gravity as a force, as Marciano once when I hit I come along with it.

    4. HOW TO SET YOUR BODY-WEIGHT IN MOTION? Put your feet together and fall forward.

    5. PREPARATION FOR THE FALLING STEP. Shift entire body-weight unto lead foot.

    6. BOUNCE FOR EQUILIBRIUM! Rock back and forth to insure balance!

    7. THE FALLING STEP. Pick up lead foot and smack it into the ground with the rear leg sliding forward.

    8. NO PRELIMINARY MOVEMENTS! Don't shift body-weight from rear foot to lead foot.
     
  2. NVSemin

    NVSemin Sugar Boxing Full Member

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  3. closedguard

    closedguard Active Member Full Member

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    Yes I can't post the link thanx for posting. do you think this style would be effective in modern boxing?
     
  4. NVSemin

    NVSemin Sugar Boxing Full Member

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    well, the use of gravity is important when throwing punches without stepping in such as overhead right. I saw examples of Joe Luis doing it and Tyson

    The jab JD was describing - to be honest, I never saw on tapes anyone doing it including JD. Maybe be he was using the technique in some episodes, but I was not able to see it
     
  5. closedguard

    closedguard Active Member Full Member

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    yes on youtube there's a tape of tyson schooling johny kendricks in using the drop step punch.
     
  6. NVSemin

    NVSemin Sugar Boxing Full Member

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    could you post is here or write the video name?

    I could not really find the part when he is doing the drop step. I saw something more like a leaping hook
     
  7. closedguard

    closedguard Active Member Full Member

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    Johny 'BIGG RIGG' Hendricks Meets Iron Mike Tyson at Cobra Kai 0:26
    drop step jab overhand right hand. jd says in his book that without this punch the fight will turn into a wrestling match, mt says in this video that when you hit the power should go threw the target! what do you think of these statements? my understanding is that jumping in and out actually is non beneficial since you need the footing to punch.
     
  8. NVSemin

    NVSemin Sugar Boxing Full Member

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    JD advocates using strong lead hand punches, one option is the drop step he describes.

    I agree with MT, he always threw his punches with bad intentions.
     
  9. closedguard

    closedguard Active Member Full Member

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    would you teach this to an amateur?
     
  10. NVSemin

    NVSemin Sugar Boxing Full Member

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    jab from a drop step? Yes, because nobody uses it. But I would teach it as a secret weapon, so the fighter uses the regular jab at first and some other punches as a setup, say, the right hand pull counter ala Mayweather, which initial position is somewhat similar to the JD drop jab. Then, when the opponent expects one of these two punches, the fighter quickly executes the drop jab, that would be a sure KD or KO.

    Gravity is very effective sometimes when you cannot step in. See joe luis ko, he basicaly shifts his front leg backwards, and the falling center of mass of his body allows him add great power to the overhead right

    http://stream1.gifsoup.com/webroot/animatedgifs/46028_o.gif
     
  11. TJ Max

    TJ Max Boxing Addict Full Member

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    The drop step jab is probably the most important punch in boxing, especially if you're at a reach disadvantage.

    Watch Hopkins fight. You can learn a lot from Hopkins.

    It's all about balance, stance, gravity, and momentum. And keeping your chin tucked if any of that fails.
     
  12. closedguard

    closedguard Active Member Full Member

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    RIGHT! because you can gain
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    using gravity.:happy