How many beat Larry Holmes ?

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  1. lepinthehood

    lepinthehood When I'm drinking you leave me well alone banned Full Member

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    i thiink lewis has more of a chance than ali.
    ali gets out jabbed, lewis has a better offense and longer reach.

    but i dont see anyone beating holmes maybe apart from tyson because he had the style to do so.
     
  2. janitor

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    Holmes Lewis is a difficult one to call, because they both have something that can potentially tip the fight in their favour.

    Holmes is probably going to be able to outbox Lewis, but Lewis’s power and right hand can make this a dangerous strategy to implement.
     
  3. ForemanJab

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    Joe Louis,Muhammad Ali,Duane Bobick,Ken Norton,George Foreman, Carl Thompson, Tim Witherspoon,Michael Spinks,Mike Tyson, Riddick Bowe, Lennox Lewis, Vitali Klitschko, Wladimir Klitschko
     
  4. cuchulain

    cuchulain Loyal Member Full Member

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    Did.

    At least in my score-book.
     
  5. cuchulain

    cuchulain Loyal Member Full Member

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    Anybody in the top twenty could beat him, and, IMO, Witherspoon (not in the top 40) did !

    However, I'll assume you mean on a good night with both fighters at their best, and no major fu ck-ups...

    Reasonably confident:

    Ali (1966/1967)
    Louis ( 1939 - 1945)
    Foreman (1972 / 1973)
    Lewis ( of Rahman 2)


    pick'em:

    V Klitschko (of TKO 6)
    Tyson (of Berbick or Spinks)
    Liston (1962-1963)


    Maybe:

    Marciano
    Frazier



    (I'm not going back to Johnson nor Dempsey eras, but who knows ?)
     
  6. he grant

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    100 to one Bummy shows up and picks Marciano :)
     
  7. Webbiano

    Webbiano Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Frazier, Norton and Marciano all have the stylistic advantages to beat Holmes. Marciano's lack of head movement could hurt him, the Norton fight would be close, just like their first encounter. I'd probably back a more youthful Ken to nick it and I have the utmost confidence in picking Frazier here. He may even stop Larry late.
     
  8. mr. magoo

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    Agree with you on Norton. For all his shortcomings the man would have been a nightmare for any pure boxer.. Ali, Holmes, Charles, Tunney, etc. would have always struggled with Ken.
     
  9. The Long Count

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    Prime Tyson
    Prime Wlad
    Prime Louis

    Frazier would make for great fight but lean towards Larry, I also beleive he would have had Ali's number. Liston would be competive.
    I had a chance to talk to Larry several years ago and he always felt Foreman would be a walk in the park for him. Not that it matters much because Larry was always supremely confident, I didn't expect to hear otherwise from him.
     
  10. Bummy Davis

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    Why wouldn't I, I know he is white he grant and that offends you but If I did not vote for Obama would that make me a bigot ( I think I know you answer brother)

    Marciano would KO Holmes IMO but so would Joe Louis and very impressively I also see Mike Tyson doing it again. I also like Dempsey against Holmes and Frazier

    Holmes-Foreman-toss up

    Holmes-Lewis I like Lewis early but if Holmes can stay away and survive his chances get better

    Ali would beat Holmes

    Max Baer has a right-handed punchers chance and so does Schmeling but I would not bet too much unless other signs indicated

    Liston- good shot at stopping Larry
     
  11. The Long Count

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    Good call on Schmeling Bummy- def has a shot with his right. Baer to me is too sloppy and doesn't possess the footwork but nice choices.
     
  12. janitor

    janitor VIP Member

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    Might be a good stylistic foil.
     
  13. frankenfrank

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    Nick Wells
    Duane Bobick (meybi)
    Abdul Aziz
    Tony Tucker (probably klows)
    Nicolay Valuev
    Vitali Klitschko
    Wladimir Klitschko (possibly)
    Jameel McCline (over 12)
    Riddick Bowe
    Douglas (maybe)
    Ernest Shavers (in hiz praim end if hi daz not get sambd)
    Ken Norton (in hiz praim)
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    Carl Williams , Tim Witherspoon , Pinklon Thomas
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    Henry Akinwande
    Frank Bruno (if he lands e r8 hend laik in ze 1st rd vs McCall , it wud b over)
    praim Tony Thompson (meibi)
    Corrie Sanders (not e seif bet , bat if hiz kawnter blitz saxids irli hi kud du it)
    Giuseppe Frazier @ de veri list (wud hev) given him hel
     
  14. Ken Ashcroft

    Ken Ashcroft Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Who is Carl Thompson? Is he the Cruiserweight who stopped David Haye?
     
  15. stokejason

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    I say prime Tyson if he keeps his cool takes Holmes later rounds!