Give Burns the credit he deserves.

Discussion in 'British Boxing Forum' started by iceferg, Jun 28, 2014.


  1. iceferg

    iceferg Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    16,370
    2,324
    Apr 25, 2008
    He has been found wanting in his last 3 all against world class opposition, a division up from
    where he started.

    Let's not forget he was durable enough to go the course in all 3 showing grit, toughness and stamina at the highest level unlike many other British contenders like Bellew, Purdy, Rose etc.

    Don't forget he beat Martinez, Katsidas, Mitchell, Gonzalez.
     
  2. sikeside

    sikeside Well-Known Member Full Member

    2,383
    0
    Sep 5, 2010
    Here here. Credit to himself Coatbridge and boxing. The boys done good
     
  3. Stokes & Hooper

    Stokes & Hooper Member Full Member

    130
    0
    Feb 19, 2012
    He maxed out on the talent he had.hope he retires now and doesn't become a stepping stone for domestic fighter's that couldn't lace his gloves in his prime.
     
  4. iceferg

    iceferg Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    16,370
    2,324
    Apr 25, 2008
    He's still the number one lightweight in Britain as far as I concerned. I have seen a post saying Crolla has bigger fish to fry. Give me a break he drew with Derry Matthews not too long ago. I hardly think a win over Rees now makes Crolla too big for him. If Crolla makes thestep up to the level Burns has been fighting at he could easily end up suffering a similar type of defeat to what Rose did recently.

    Burns came on strongly at the end against Crawford who has just beaten Gamboa. In my opinion Burns should go back to Billy Nelson either that or go to Freddie Roach.
     
  5. jordan1989

    jordan1989 Active Member Full Member

    940
    3
    Mar 18, 2013
    Burns deserves credit to go from losing against Arthur and Johansen to becoming a 2 weight world champion deserves a lot of credit I hope he either retires now or takes a few fights to get his confidence back up he needs to fight guys who don't have big power.
     
  6. Redman

    Redman Active Member Full Member

    1,407
    5
    Sep 16, 2013
    Yeah because fighters can just decide if they are going to be trained by Freddie Roach.
     
  7. iceferg

    iceferg Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    16,370
    2,324
    Apr 25, 2008
    A two weight world champion like Ricky Burns would most likely get the attention of Roach. Not liķe he is some novice or journeyman.
     
  8. Robney

    Robney ᴻᴼ ᴸᴼᴻᴳᴲᴿ ᴲ۷ᴵᴸ Full Member

    93,528
    28,239
    Jan 18, 2010
    He deserves credit, but it's over for him now losing 3 in a row after getting lucky in the fight before that.
    he might still make some domestic waves but he's done at world level.
     
  9. HerolGee

    HerolGee Loyal Member banned Full Member

    41,974
    4,030
    Sep 22, 2010
    he never was at world level, really just fringe. stick to euro.
     
  10. Strongback

    Strongback Boxing Addict Full Member

    3,420
    9
    Nov 6, 2009
    Burns has had a lot of tough fights close together. I know he had to take the Crawford mandatory but I wonder was getting in with Crawford a good move.

    It's hard to keeping performing against top quality opposition. I think the strategy Matchroom used with Burns didn't help him.
     
  11. fatcity

    fatcity Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    17,931
    11
    Feb 26, 2005
    This is the reality,although his fans massively over rates him.
     
  12. doylexxx

    doylexxx Boxing Junkie Full Member

    12,986
    14
    Mar 4, 2009
    Any amateur or pro is welcome at wildcard. Do well and you could indeed get trained by Roach.
     
  13. HerolGee

    HerolGee Loyal Member banned Full Member

    41,974
    4,030
    Sep 22, 2010
    this is doubly wrong.

    firstly, what do you expect a world champion to do? fight losers in the way the K bros or Calzaghe does? appalling. every opponent should be a legit challenger, that is, world level, perhaps with 1 in 4 or 1 in 5 stepped down a level.

    secondly, his opponents aren't even the best ones he could pick, they are largely second rate.

    and to add to that, burns never performed against them anyway. Hes arguably lost 4 on the trot now, and certainly 3. The evidence dictates that he shouldn't be at world level, though I am of course not saying he shouldn't be trying to capture a title - just that he didn't deserve to own one in the firstplace.

    The best thing he had going for him, heart, is no longer there either, and without that hes euro level. Though I do hope he can develop and get to that world level one day.
     
  14. wazza

    wazza New Member Full Member

    34
    4
    Aug 30, 2013
    I feel he isn't nearly the fighter he was, still got the heart of a lion and will to see the fight out but he has become too easy to hit and isn't judging distances any more. its a shame as there is a few decent fighters up here that deserve good exposure but I feel the big boxing nights wont be back here for a while now
     
  15. Furey

    Furey EST & REG 2009 Full Member

    16,605
    6,650
    Oct 18, 2009
    Agree with both points.

    Burns for me is 100% the best LW we have here in the UK. Come up short in his recent outings at world level, but still has to much for the domestic lads.

    I would like to see + imagine that he will drop down a level now, so we will see some domestic dust ups involving Burns (going off the basis of Hearns recent interview with Kugan) which I do think we'll see him shine once more in.