Time for overrated burns to retire

Discussion in 'British Boxing Forum' started by moog, Jun 27, 2014.



  1. sikeside

    sikeside Well-Known Member Full Member

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    'Have a bit of respect you fukin animal' that's the reply you give to Billy Nelson a proven world class trainer in your favoured sport, pathetic. Where has bill ever been disrespectful to the Harrisons? He gives an opinion yous dafties don't agree and he gets that ****. Unbelievable Jeff
     
  2. bbjc

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    Cant believe anyone that wasn't in scott harrisons camp would give scott a chance against burns. Scott wont beat any names from here on out definetely not burns Good luck to him all the same. Prime for prime scott would have beat ricky his determnaton and unrated skill would have seen him through. Both have tools that would cause the other problems tho. But scott was a man on the edge i was never his biggest fan but appreciated how skilled he was regardless of how people didn't pick up on it.

    Ricky's biggest problem at the minute is he's trying too hard to please and ending up making school boy errors. The guy the other week was a nightmare first fight back from a defeat for anyone. Ricky's an introverted character and the worst thing he's done is leaving billy nelson at the same time after years most people stop listening doesn't matter if your roach with pacman or ricky with burns. It is what it is.

    I m saying to billy how about getting yourself out to america for a holiday...have a look at what their doing out there. I m a big fan of what these guys are doing here in scotland...they've had a great bit of success...but can they go on to be the top guys. I say why not but we need to broaden our horizons.

    Rickys moved on who's left...everybody i know is looking to improve themselves...why not billy nelson. I say go out there looking for the next champion as opposed to waiting on the next one walking into the gym. Billy in my opinion took ricky near enough to the top level....but just fell short. That in itself is a massive achievement...but nows the time to kick on and realise he can go one better. But you wont do that with the guys you've got now. If peter fury can get chambers surely billy can get someone that can achieve something at the top level......no disrespect intended billy.

    Will be thinking brilliant more advice from someone who's not achieved half of what you have...i know you dont need advice but would hate to see you stuck with guys that wont achieve at the top level and not stricking when the iron is hot so to speak. It's not often people get the chance to realise their dreams but usually the ones that do go above and beyond to achieve them!

    I m asking what the plans are for the future billy and not in one sentence. Also cant believe that no trainer i know employs the cus d'mato tactics with tyson. Number the bag....call out the numbers until it's drilled. 2 of the best training methods i ve ever seen is that one plus the mayweather pad work...cant believe that people think it's a sham...............it's all about the reflexes :).
     
  3. Farmboxer

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    Burns should think about retiring, but he has a few fights left.....................
     
  4. p.Townend

    p.Townend Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I have always liked him,good to watch despite his lack of power. Came up to Glasgow on the night he lost the title to support him knowing he was in a hard one. I don`t know about retirement,seems a bit harsh. He should test the waters at domestic/euro level and see how that goes first. He isn`t likely to get knocked out at any level so if I were him Id stick around and try get a few decent money fights at Brit level and see where it goes.
     
  5. Ryan the Lion

    Ryan the Lion King of the Jungle Full Member

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    **** off Peter Pan away and play with the fairies.
     
  6. ApatheticLeader

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    "Harrison was a special fighter"

    Good ****ing grief, the guy is the Scottish Eubank. Wih a little more ability, granted. But the idea hat people actually think he was ever an elite talent is a joke. Why is it that anybody with any external problems are given a ton of extra 'what if' points on top of nostalgia points?

    If Harrison in his title reign was better than Burns, it was marginally. The man stopped progressing after 15 pro fights.
     
  7. sikeside

    sikeside Well-Known Member Full Member

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    why don't you **** off Ryan you fukin dafty absolute gimp you are a disrespectful wee *******. Poofy *****
     
  8. Ryan the Lion

    Ryan the Lion King of the Jungle Full Member

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    What's it like in Neverland Peter Pan?
     
  9. moog

    moog Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    The fact that he done as his promoter/manager wanted him to, and Sims was approached to take job on. Who least had decency to phone you up and ask you if you minded. The most important partnership in boxing is the boxer/trainer one, and he dropped u to keep the money men happy. Without u there would have been no money men involved with him as he would still be a leisure centre fighter, he forgets that! So yes he stabbed you in the back
     
  10. moog

    moog Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Its a ****ing forum bawbag, its not the Army with rankings. Everyone is entitled to their opinion as much as Billys entitled to his. Being a good trainer doesn't take away peoples rights to disagree with you. As I am sure Billy appreciates
     
  11. Ryan the Lion

    Ryan the Lion King of the Jungle Full Member

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    Scott Harrison's title reign wasn't marginally better than Ricky Burns it was A LOT BETTER. Scott had beaten better fighters at domestic level than some of Burns opponents at world level. Scott had beaten Patrick Mullings, Richie Wenton and Gary Thornhill who were better than Rickys first 3 world title defences against Andreas Evenson, Joe Laryea and Nicky Cook.

    Burns had a good win against Rocky Martinez and also beat Katsidis and Moses, but they are not better than Harrisons wins over Manuel Medina (5x world champion), Jullio Pablo Chacon and Wayne McCullogh. Scott also beat William Abelyan which is a better win than Ricky's win over Chelo Gonzalez. Harrison also beat Nedal Hussein, Michael Brodie and Victor Santiago which are arguably better individual results than Burns win over Kevin Mitchell. That's a bigger and better margin pal :good
     
  12. moog

    moog Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Spot on. Plus people have to remember Naz was offered world title fight v Chacon, and wouldn't touch it. Ricky has beaten one world class fighter in Martinez. Mitchell and Kastidas were never world class. As I have said many a time a lot of guys Scott beat would be long reigning champs if there career was now, but they had Scott, Pacman, Barrera, Moralas, Marquez, Chacon, Naz to deal with. Guys a couple of levels above anything that Ricky has fought
     
  13. sikeside

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    never land? What's it like in bheastie priestie land? U torbetts laddie? Paradise hahahaha
     
  14. sikeside

    sikeside Well-Known Member Full Member

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    aye it's a forum opinions can be expressed but calling him a fukin animal? Fact is you 2 are no marks who will never achieve anything in the sport you love where as BN had yet he's a fukin animal :patsch
     
  15. Solarse

    Solarse Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Get Billy's **** out of your mouth you silly jock..