Pac hasn't figured out JMM in 10 years, but he can figure out FMJ in 36 Minutes?

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  1. Huberth

    Huberth Active Member Full Member

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    Style makes fight, Floyd feels he will loose to pacman, void's excuse not to fight pacman is infinity. For jmm, the record is 2-1-1, should be 3-0-1. (Judge scoring error) or 4-0-0, (without that fluke steroid punch) which jmm scared of the 5th fight.:lol:
     
  2. Code Red

    Code Red Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Marquez doesn't do a damn thing better than Mayweather!! Maybe Marquez is better at getting tagged, knocked down, bruised and bloodied, other than that though, Floyd trumps Marquez in every category. And as far as counterpunching, did you not see that Floyd gave JMM a lesson in counterpunching?? Watch their fight in 2009, easy as f_ck... you watch that and tell me who the better counterpuncher is!! Hell watch Floyd -Canelo, Floyd-Mosley, Floyd-Corales, Floyd-NDou, Floyd -De La Hoya aint no way you going to tell me Marquez is a better counterpuncher!!
     
  3. walk with me

    walk with me Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    In my opinion....

    pacs only chance is to 1 hit quit floyd which seems pretty unlikely seeing as shane mosley punched floyd with pretty much his absolute best shot and floyd took it.

    I don't think pac would be able to control floyd with his awkwardness or crazy footwork. Floyd has a better although less frequent jab, and pacquiao wouldn't be able to muscle floyd anywhere in the ring like maidana did. If he tried he would just wind up getting knocked out.



    I would expect floyd decision 9-3, 9-3, 7-5
     
  4. Code Red

    Code Red Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Nacho Beristein fears even the thought of putting Marquez in a rematch with Floyd, Beristein has said himself that JMM is great but Floyd is on another planet!
     
  5. progamer

    progamer Boxing Junkie banned

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    lmfao.

    theftjr dropped by judah.


    you ****ing idiot has no idea what you talking about.

    fights you mentioned arent against southpaws.

    show me theftjr consistently countering a southpaw.

    show me thefjr jabbing a southpaw.

    show me thefjt rolling a straight left.


    did i mention youre an idiot? ok then.


    that's the thing about fighting a southpaw, youd be forced to fight, instead of box.

    look how easy bradley boxed macne, but when it came to pac, he couldnt.
     
  6. modernfonzie

    modernfonzie Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    No. When it came to Pac he let his emotions get the best of him. He was up early before changing his gameplan.

    Floyd lands 50% on Southpaws. YDKSAB
     
  7. blai213

    blai213 Active Member Full Member

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    and Floyd took 10 rounds to figure out Hatton, Pac only 2. What's your point?

    Styles make fights, and JMM fights nothing like Mayweather.
     
  8. RememberingC.S.

    RememberingC.S. Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Peoples like Castillo, Cotto, Maidina figured out Pedjr well enough.

    If a skilless brainless slow uncoordinated walking dead like Maidina can outpoint Pedjr, then the flashy southpaw 8 divisions champion can do too.
     
  9. progamer

    progamer Boxing Junkie banned

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    YOU DONTKNOW WHAT YOU WERE WATCHING. (watch the 2 fights, not just the last. bradley cant box pac. pac is just too quick and too powerful in a southpaw stance).

    bradley is a professional to be swayed by emotions.

    the plan was to bring the fight to pac (exactly how theftjr's fight southpaws, except guerrero coz he is flatfooted and theftjr can easily get around him, but he was either getting off first or disengage completely but none of that countering ****. also waht macne did in the last fight with the help of peds, and rios too) but he is just not a big puncher so he tried to emulate a big puncher by loading on every shot, which tired him.

    he didnt change his plan, he got tired, so there was far in between the loaded shots. he was still winging shots til late in the fight.

    it's the same **** theftjr is going to be in. he is feather fisted and he cant box pac and roll his punches.

    he cant walk pac down, and gets offensive, because pac will trade and tee off him 10punches in split second if theftjr will decide to stand his ground.


    i envision theftjr fights pac ala vs. guerrero. try to get off first and either clinch or disengage.

    but pac isnt flatfooted and slow like guerrero. at some point pac wil be able to time the punches so theftjr will be forced to jump like a kangaroo. keep moving, which will make his feather fisted punches more pillows.

    he wont be able to move for 12 rounds, not at a high pace that pac does.

    at some point when theftjr tires, and he wont be able to lay on the ropes to get his rest or he will get teed off risking straight lefts to the face, he will get overwhelmed.



    one thing i noticed too. theftjr is fast with his punches, when his feet are set.

    he cant punch on the move.



    Floyd lands 50% on Southpaws.
    you just proved my point. theftjr isnt defensive against southpaws, he is offensive.

    if he lands that many that means pac will have that much opportunity.

    id take pac'\s high volume offense against feather fisted low output like theftjr.

    theftjr doesnt box and roll/coutner a southpaw.

    show me theftjr rollign and countering a southpaw.

    show me thefjr's jab connection rate against southpaws. i still remember, around 50pct against drainelo and liek 20pct against guerrero.

    you just proved my point: theftjr;s strength agains southpaws is his offense not defense.

    pac\s strength is against offnsive fighters, not someone he is going to chase around for 12 rounds.

    pac with speed and power in a southpaw stance, and excellent stamina, solid chin, is stylistically nightmare for featherfisted theftjr, not the other way around.:deal
     
  10. progamer

    progamer Boxing Junkie banned

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    not exactly figuring out, well you can say the figuring out was done in the camp.

    plan is just try to overwhelm him and force him to just defend.

    only problem really is sustaining the attack, because against a featherfisted like him, you dont worry too much of what's coming in return.

    when you stay flatfooted in the middle of the ring, that's when he shines because he has long reach and single punch speed.

    attack him and force him to move, and he will lose his offense.


    if you can sustain an all out attack for 7-8 rounds, which i believe pac will be able, 12 rounds if necessary, theftjr is toast.
     
  11. dangerousity

    dangerousity Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    It's all good until he's risking his health, then he'll need a vacation. Mayweather is a winner, once he's in the ring he'll do anything to win, including sucker punch someone. The same drive to always be a winner, is the same reason why he won't fight someone that doesn't guarantee him a win. A midget on steroids for example.
     
  12. Lady Girl

    Lady Girl Kneel Before Zod! Full Member

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    they just got to watch maidana blueprint and be a little more accurate with their punches and they got him
     
  13. mughalmirza786

    mughalmirza786 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He was shelling up at points against Ndou and Chavez. I think Floyd's power is underrated though at 147 and PACs chin isn't like it was in 09.
     
  14. robert80

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    DID YOU SEE THE PUNISHMENT WHAT NDOU & CHAVEZ WERE TAKING IN RETURN? LOG OFF WITH YOUR FOOLISHNESS, PACS STYLE HAS CHANGED SINCE THAT BRUTAL KO. iT EVEN MADE HIM TAKE A DRUG TEST TOO!!
     
  15. punisher

    punisher Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    No he doesn't just shell up. I agree he gets more defensive and punches less. But, he is basically looking for an opening to the head or to the body, while picking off most of what's coming his way. When Maidana was throwing nonstop while Floyd was on the ropes, Floyd was working his body and also sneaked in an uppercut or two. He did similar work while in a defensive shell against nearly every opponent since De La Hoya. You must be confusing him with Clottey.