Greatest p4p fighters of the last 20 years, revised!

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  1. Fedor Em

    Fedor Em Enforcement, VRWC style Full Member

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    I will give it a Go

    1988-Current

    1. Pernell Whitaker
    2. Roy Jones Jr.
    3. Julio Caesar Chavez
    4. Evander Holyfield
    5. Bernard Hopkins
    6. Floyd Mayweather Jr.
    7. Erik Morales
    8. Ricardo Lopez
    9. Marco Antonio Barrera
    10. Lennox Lewis
    11. Oscar De La Hoya
    12. James Toney
    13. Manny Pacquiao
    14. Joe Calzaghe
    15. Felix Trinidad
    16. Jeff Fenech
    17. Shane Mosley
    18. Winky Wright
    19. Kostya Tszyu
    20. Rafael Marquez
     
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  2. kg0208

    kg0208 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    That is actually a very very solid list.

    I am sure it will receive some critism. Pretty good effort IMO.
     
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  3. Larson

    Larson Paenkhay Full Member

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    I would switch #1 with #2 but otherwise that's a pretty solid list.
     
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  4. golfer3939a

    golfer3939a New Member Full Member

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    Nice list.
    I'd switch 11 with 13..
     
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  5. Fedor Em

    Fedor Em Enforcement, VRWC style Full Member

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    They always do. I was actually thinking about moving Chavez down below Holyfield and Hopkins. It is an unpopular choice but I think the 2 have faced as good a quality of fighters as Chavez. Holyfield or Hopkins has not been beaten wide at their peak either, even though Pea was extremely special.
     
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  6. Sweet Pea

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    Any particular reason?
     
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  7. brooklyn1550

    brooklyn1550 Roberto Duran Full Member

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    Where would you rank Azumah Nelson? Top 25?
     
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  8. Fedor Em

    Fedor Em Enforcement, VRWC style Full Member

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    Definately, he probally should be in the top 20 actually
     
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  9. Sweet Pea

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    There's really no case for ranking Marquez ahead of him. Or really, ranking Rafa above JMM in my opinion.
     
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  10. Amsterdam

    Amsterdam Boris Christoff Full Member

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    Floyd should not be top under DLH or Mosely, both beat better fighters than he did and fought better fighters than he did. Against the level of opposition he's fought, they crushed them more impressively.

    Also, I think Calzaghe has more claim to Tszyu's spot than Tszyu himself, in fact, he should just be ahead of Wright and Marquez should be top 25.
     
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  11. Farmboxer

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    Calzaghe's first fight at 175 and he fights Hopkins in Hopkins territory. First time for Joe to fight in US also. I say that takes guts.
     
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  12. Amsterdam

    Amsterdam Boris Christoff Full Member

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    That's one of the only problems, plus DLH so low and Floyd so high.

    Also, if you've got Tszyu and Wright in the top 20, no Calzaghe? I feel he ranks over both all time clearly.
     
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  13. Sweet Pea

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    He has Calzaghe at #14.

    Floyd easily ranks above Mosley.
     
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  14. Amsterdam

    Amsterdam Boris Christoff Full Member

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    :lol:

    Didn't see that, well, new complaint, wouldn't have Calzaghe over Mosely, again people, let's look at what Mosely did as a natural LW in compared to Floyd and Calzaghe.

    He has his losses, but his win over a prime DLH and general performance level against top fighters, including a prime Winky Wright where he nearly had the 2nd fight a draw at that big of a stylistic/size disadvantage says well for Mosely.

    Would like to see Joy Boy even fight a P4P level WW, for comparison. Floyd doing well against Cotto, being he's a little smaller than Mosely, should equate to Mosely doing well against Wright, IMO.
     
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  15. Amsterdam

    Amsterdam Boris Christoff Full Member

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    And I know Sweet Pea doesn't like my pro-James Toney stance, but to put Joy Boy ahead of him is a controversial. Toney's a LOCK for the top 10 with his competition level and resume(top 20 stiff comp of all time and check his win/loss ratio, pretty impressive).

    :good
     
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