How Do You Feel About "Stiff-Arming"?

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  1. the_bigunit

    the_bigunit Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I was re-watching Roman Gonzalez vs. Francisco Rodriguez Jr. and Rodriguez is deducted a point in Round 6 for stiff-arming.

    Frankly, if your opponent wants to keep his face on your extended arm that's their problem, right?

    What do you think?



    Gonzalez-Rodriguez Jr (good fight): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aa19fcIJGKA
     
  2. divac

    divac Loyal Member Full Member

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    Tommy Hearns did it alot. Though he was warned by the refs not to do it many times, I dont believe Hearns was ever deducted points for using such tactic.

    The rule against stiff arming is there for a reason, otherwise tall fighters with a sizeable reach would just stiff arm opponents and use that as defense.
     
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  3. Just Rik

    Just Rik Boxing Addict Full Member

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    The only reason I want to see an arm extended is for the purpose of throwing a punch. I can't stand when fighters stiff arm, not only is it always a taller fighter trying to get a further advantage through stiff arming but, it is also prevents action, similar to holding.
     
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  4. Kid Cincinnati

    Kid Cincinnati GOOD BOY NATION Full Member

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    It's also called "measuring your opponent". I seem to remember Ali doing it quite a bit (and never being called for it). I'd say it's considered a foul because it's not a blow.
     
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  5. Barrera

    Barrera Defeated Boxing_master Full Member

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    i notice alot of amateurs use a style like roy jones that holds one hand in a pawing motion (always the lead hand it seems) and they kind of do a more sneaky way of stiff-arming
     
  6. Xelloss

    Xelloss Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    That point deduction was silly.

    Golovkin does it all the time. No reason clinching should be legal but having a hand out shouldnt. If his arm is in your way, slip by or under it. No reason you should be required to keep your glove in close, block their vision, tap em back, control their head.
     
  7. STB

    STB #noexcuses Full Member

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    Emmanuel Stewart fights were known for it.

    Lewis
    Wlad
    Hearns
    Even Lee uses it.
     
  8. Lartize

    Lartize Active Member Full Member

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    Canelo likes to do it

    Mayweather will do it before throwing a right hand. He will do it then throw a straight, do it then throw a looping right around their left hand.

    I have no issue with it if it is used in a way to punch.


    Kind of like how I am fine with clinching as long as it leads to a way of landing a punch.
     
  9. Winger

    Winger Member Full Member

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    I have no problem with it.

    They can't simply do that all night or the other fighter can slip it and knock them out in a pretty embarrassing fashion. Most tall fighters just use it the same way as a lazy jab, to keep their opponent at bay while physically feeling where their head is, hence the nickname "measuring".

    It's not really a defense. Have a buddy with good upper body movement bob and wave while you try to keep your fist on his forehead... Not easy. It's useful for feeling which direction they're about to move though.
     
  10. Winger

    Winger Member Full Member

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    May also does something a bit more controversial which is almost "elbow posting", pushing his opponent's head back with his elbow at close range the way thaiboxers do.
     
  11. Robney

    Robney ᴻᴼ ᴸᴼᴻᴳᴲᴿ ᴲ۷ᴵᴸ Full Member

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    From the many fouls I see in fights, it's one of the things that bothers me the least. Elbowing, pushing, holding/hitting, you name it.

    It's a trick to use when you have reach advantage over your opponent, and it has been used troughout boxing history. Like already mentioned, the one many call a goat, Ali used it in a lot of his fights.
    There are also enough tricks to take away that arm if your opponent does that, and if you get a bit lucky you can even take out the extended arm completely.
     
  12. jim jim

    jim jim Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    what is it exactly just putting out your arm?
     
  13. sir axeman

    sir axeman Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I recall Rahman doing it vs Lewis...didn't help him much tho. :lol:
     
  14. GoodOldBoy

    GoodOldBoy Active Member Full Member

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    That ref must have gotten paid or something. Instead of using his hand to push his opponents head around he could have used it to deliver punches. Way I see it using that tactic wasn't even in the guys favour.
     
  15. alexthegreatmc

    alexthegreatmc Sound logic and reason. You're welcome! Full Member

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    I only have a problem with it if they do it excessively or unnecessarily. Or if they do it to the extreme like pushing the fighters head way back. Otherwise, I could see a fighter using this technique on someone who's roughing you up inside and you're trying to get some space.