Is overtraining a myth or an easy excuse

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  1. huntingground

    huntingground Member Full Member

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    Nail on head, I powerlift and overtraining is easy if you are squatting 300KG.
     
  2. Jason777

    Jason777 Active Member Full Member

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    Yes and the stronger you get the easier it is to happen as beginners can lift their baby weights for many sets with little consequence
     
  3. bbjc

    bbjc Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Cheers mate :good
     
  4. ant-man

    ant-man ant Full Member

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    No doubt.
     
  5. billy nelson

    billy nelson the fighting scots gym Full Member

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    You can overtrain, if you have a date in mind and your fighters peaking and suddenly that date gets changed you need to potentially stop training has hard because of the delay and try and pick it up again for the new date, very difficult thing to do imo
    Hows things with you Arnie:hi:
     
  6. billy nelson

    billy nelson the fighting scots gym Full Member

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    The main purpose for a coach is to get the athlete physically and mentally prepared for a specific date, now if a athlete is nearly peaked and for instance that date gets changed you cant put it down to 'unbalalanced training' the athlete as done all that's asked of him its other things that have let him down, then there just expected to get on with it and be 100% again, hard thing to do :patsch
     
  7. Arnie

    Arnie Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Read it carefully I said under rest. People who feel fatigued haven't had enough time to recharge and refuel. People can train hard all year round if they have the equivalent rest. Im good Bill hope you are too
     
  8. Arnie

    Arnie Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Spot on mate.
     
  9. Andreas

    Andreas Member Full Member

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    I concur, and while i am nowhere near squatting that sort of weight i regularly do strong lifts and heavy compound lifts, to try and do it too often is an invitation to failure. In boxing i believe a lot of over training is mental, for someone who only trains in the 12 weeks before a fight it is easy to over train and to fatigue mentally and physically.
     
  10. Naturalmass

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    On the money.

    In a word - Periodisation

    Work/rest/recovery formula is crucial but is also unique to the individual.

    Some fighters can work harder than others (mental toughness) and recover faster than others (Genetic and environmental influences).

    Honest communication between the fighter and trainer is key.

    Overtraining? Yes, there is such a thing but is borne from ignorance and neglect in equal measure.
     
  11. Naturalmass

    Naturalmass Member Full Member

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    Totally valid.

    Under resting - CNS fatigue - lack lustre training sessions - decreased productivity - loss of top end attributes -

    "Couldnae get goin in there"

    REST

    Eat well

    SLEEP
     
  12. Furey

    Furey EST & REG 2009 Full Member

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    Did Hatton say that after Mayweather?? Sure he only said it after Pac? Which he did have terrible prep for, not that I feel it would changed the end result but he might have faired better.

    I do think over-training is a 'thing'. Fighters have a camp e.g. 8 week training camp and it's all planned with S&C coaches etc that the fighter peaks at the correct point. If a fights then delayed or for whatever other reason it can be left in the gym.
     
  13. N17

    N17 Loyal Member Full Member

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    :deal
     
  14. hitandhope

    hitandhope Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Mind-blowing that some seem to be denying this.
     
  15. lazarus20000

    lazarus20000 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Hatton did it all the wrong way. Ballooning massively in weight and abusing his body with junk and then go into a hardcore training regime. No wonder his body was finished by early thirties.

    Somebody like Hopkins is a brilliant example of a boxer who does things the right way. Eat well, keep fit and maintain a constant weight year in year out.