History of professional boxing if Soviet countries could fight pro?

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  1. Jason777

    Jason777 Active Member Full Member

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    If former USSR countries, Cubans and others previously not allowed to turn professional had been allowed, how would championship history look? We are seeing how strong these countries are in boxing lately and it makes me wonder.
     
  2. STB

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    Not much different.

    It wasnt until AFTER the wall came down that eastern bloc countries started to excel in the amateurs.

    Look at the Olympics pre the collapse of the soviet union. America was far and away the most dominant nation

    Unfortunately yes, good fighters like Stevenson couldnt go pro because of the backward nature of communism
     
  3. Azzer85

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    I read that and thought.....Adonis?!!!
     
  4. STB

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    haha, I actually thought it as I was writing it! :D
     
  5. STB

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    They were still sending their best werent they?
     
  6. STB

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    Most arent staying amateur.

    From the last olympics alone you have
    Mekhontsev
    Lomachenko
    Usyk
    Shelestyuk

    From 2008,you have
    Glazkov and Chakiev

    For some reason the Azeris and Kazakhs dont seem to go pro...dont really get it.

    But for the most park, the elite fighters from the old soviet bloc are flooding into the pros.

    Even the Cubans are going pro in greater numbers, fleeing the island.

    The pro game now is a proper representation of who is the best around.

    The amateur game is a good scope of who has talent, but essentially its still the equivalent of college basketball....a good breeding ground
     
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    I think the USA would still have been the strongest boxing nation, but there would have been a lot of champions from communist countries
     
  9. STB

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    My thoughts too.

    Would have been a broader spectrum
     
  10. STB

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    Im not sure what your point is.

    They sent the best fighters available to them when they went to the olympics or not?
     
  11. STB

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    You included 5 olympics after the fall of the soviet union...why?

    Also in relation to the OP, what difference does it make if Britain was winning medals, their fighters always went pro anyway?

    And Canada? Were they part of the Communist bloc that couldnt go pro? How does Lennox Lewis who immediately went pro change anything? They're a little bit to the left but still...

    Also you focused almost purely on SHW...why?
     
  12. STB

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    People get injured...that doesn't mean they weren't sending the best they could.

    So every nation that had a fighter pull out injured before the Olympics weren't sending their best fighters either?

    Foreman could have gotten injured and someone else would have went. It wouldn't have meant America wasn't sending its best boxers.
     
  13. STB

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    Maybe it is for the best.

    If you cant understand that someone getting in jured doesnt mean that a team didnt send its best, then theres nothing left to say.

    Yes, he would have been Americas best, because who'd be better than him? An injured Foreman?

    You send the best team you can send even if that means the 10 best fighters in your country have all come down with a mysterious illness.

    If you're picking the best available to you, then you're picking the best.

    Good day.
     
  14. STB

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    It has nothing to do with this thread though.

    My very first post I was clearly talking about pre-wall times.

    Everything post 1990 is pretty much irrelevant in this thread.
     
  15. Jason777

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    Interesting that in Yugoslavia Olympic champion Mate Parlov was allowed to turn
    Pro and became a legitimate professional champion also. Maybe Yugoslavia wasn't as strict a communist country or they wanted to show the world their stars so they let some go pro.